Paris Attacked

Thur.. 11/19... cafe videos showing glass flying and shattering among gun shots... woman in coat running through the door heading to the floor behind the counter... (appears she smashed the glass on the door to break in and run for cover)...

... is she looking down at a cell phone held between her two hands?... possibly texting?.. or dialing?... as she is bolting for cover?

I've seen that clip a half dozen times and it looks like she is holding something with both palms and looking right at her hands... if so, then this is the #1 video in all of social media to be under live gun fire and run for cover while 'messing' with a phone.
 
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"Since October 10, ISIS and its sympathizers around the world have killed at least 525 people in six attacks in six countries outside its so-called caliphate. ....

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--Oct. 10: The bombing of peace demonstrations outside the main train station in Ankara, Turkey left 102 dead. Directed by ISIS;

--Oct. 31: The bombing of a Metrojet plane bound for Russia over killed 224 passengers and crew. An "announcement" attack by the ISIS in the Sinai peninsula;

--Nov. 10: Two suicide bombers detonating themselves in a marketplace in southern Beirut, Lebanon, killing 43 people. Directed by ISIS;

--Nov. 13: Attacks on multiple sites in Paris, including the Bataclan theater left 130 dead, excluding attackers. Directed by ISIS;

--Nov. 24: The bombing of a bus carrying members of the presidential guard in the Tunisian capital city of Tunis left at least 12 dead. An "announcement" attack by the ISIS affiliate in Tunisia.

--Dec. 2: The assault on a San Bernardino, California office holiday party killed 14 people. Allegedly inspired by ISIS, but extent of any contact between the shooters and ISIS or sympathizers is unknown......."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/is...-u-s-led-coalition-bombing-its-troops-n475321

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Joe Fan said:
So, somebody knew something ahead of time .....

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Is that new news? I remember that being reported within a day or 2 of the original attack. Something along the lines of he escaped back to "Syria" and may have even boasted if his escape in Social Media.
 
Seattle Husker said:
Is that new news? I remember that being reported within a day or 2 of the original attack. Something along the lines of he escaped back to "Syria" and may have even boasted if his escape in Social Media.
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Still not sure we are on same page? This report is based on Belgian sources about a failed raid back in January. At the time, Abaaoud was directing a Belgium cell from Athens.

Abaaoud didnt "escape to Syria" but died in Paris Nov 18
 
Joe Fan said:
Still not sure we are on same page? This report is based on Belgian sources about a failed raid back in January. At the time, Abaaoud was directing a Belgium cell from Athens.

Abaaoud didnt "escape to Syria" but died in Paris Nov 18
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I know Abaaoud is dead. :) No, it was reported in the days immediately following the Paris attacks that authorities tried to arrest Abaaoud in Greece after tracking his cell phone but he escaped. At the time it was thought he absconded back to Syria but it's possible he actually went back into Paris. The point at the time was that Abaaoud openly boasted that he could leave/enter Europe whenever he wanted.
 
texas_ex2000 said:
As Deez has pointed out, while many news agencies have reported this was ISIS, even ISIS claimed responsibility, we don't know of ISIS Actual funded, planned, and executed the attack.

That said, this was an attack, one of many, in the past several years, by Islamic extremists. But that's not the whole story. This was an attack, one of many, over the past decade, over the past century, since the beginning or the American Republic (before oil, or an overseas military presence, or the State of Israel), and since the beginning of Islam 1,500 years ago. The cause of these attacks aren't Obama, or W. Bush, or Clinton, or GHWB, or Regan, or Carter. They aren't because of the West Bank or Gaza Strip. They aren't because of Gorbachev, or Lawrence of Arabia, or colonialism.

Jihad, struggle, is simply the way it's been for the vast majority of human civilization. It's not caused by anything anyone does. It is the way of life. Electing a kinder POTUS (at least optically) did nothing to solve the problem of Islamic extremism because they don't care if the President was General LeMay or Mother Teresa.

You're certain nobody has an answer to ISIS. I don't know if that's true or untrue. I have a few ideas - maybe they'd work...maybe they wouldn't. But here's what I know for certain. For Americans and our allies, this fight is not about these f#@^!* Islamic extremists. They are nothing and will always be jihadists. This is about who we are. What is France? What is America? There are a lot of answers, all correct to those two questions and too many to count culturally, technologically, religiously, politically, philanthropically, scientifically. etc. And we don't need "jobs" to define how great America and France are or as a reason to be great.

As the Marquis De LaFayette wrote, "Humanity has gained its suit (America); Liberty will nevermore be without an asylum." Notice how he said "Humanity." To make good on this, the Marquis believed Americans would fight for liberty. The price of Liberty is eternal vigilance. It's not taking out Jihadi John collecting $200 and passing go. It's not some quantitative metric on neutralized high-value targets, reduction in terrorist attacks, or successful Justice Department prosecutions. Eternal vigilance, the price of Liberty and standing up for who we are, is kicking *** 24/7/365 eternally whenever anyone threatens Columbia. It is standing up for Liberty anywhere in the world when decency is threatened. And LaFayette was not some pansy that half-assed $%i+. It is the belief in and protecting the suit of Humanity. That is what winning this war means to France and America.
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I have been in many locker rooms, and both received and given many motivational speeches, but this is one of the best I have ever been exposed to. I am pumped after reading that, Texas ex 2000! Etch that in stone and place it in front of the Nation's Capitol!
 
Freedom is also incompatible the values of French society. Only atheism, fancy food, and violent revolution is compatible with French society.
 
Monahorns said:
Freedom is also incompatible the values of French society. Only atheism, fancy food, and violent revolution is compatible with French society.
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To be fair, Americans often judge "French society" based on how we perceive Paris, but that's like judging "American society" based on New York City. Paris is largely a bunch of God-hating socialists, and the rest of the city is Muslim. However, outside of Paris, France is less radical, more Christian, and far less crazy.
 
Monahorns said:
I'll take your word for it. They are the most socialist country in Western Europe today.
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I would probably put the Nordic countries (especially Sweden) further left, but France is pretty far out there. Also, look out for Portugal. Their most recent election was a disaster.
 
The Nordic countries aren't socialist. They are capitalists with a large welfare state. They score more or less the same as the US on the economic freedom index. France doesn't.

Plus, violent leftist revolution was invented in France.
 
Monahorns said:
The Nordic countries aren't socialist. They are capitalists with a large welfare state. They score more or less the same as the US on the economic freedom index. France doesn't.
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I'm not entirely sure I agree with the Economic Freedom Index. They put the UK and Iceland ahead of the United States. I think that's pretty hard to justify. I understand the difference between socialism and lots of welfare, but they can blur. For example, Sweden is pretty close to true socialized medicine - not just in financing. The government is not only the primary payer for healthcare, it is the primary provider. That isn't the case in France.

Monahorns said:
Plus, violent leftist revolution was invented in France.
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Yep, that's true.
 
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