Officially Official..WV invited to B12

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I've said this before - Aggy is so delusional and has such an inferiority complex that they are rooting for the demise of the Big 12 even after they have decided to leave. In their tiny little brains, they think that there departure will cause the conference to crumble and they are disappointed that it might just find a way to survive (and thrive) without them. Kinda like a shipping clerk who thinks the company can't survive without him so he quits, and then is shocked when the company marches on.. Aggy - you are replaceable. Go play with your new buddies in the SEC. We'll be fine. But please - get the hell off our boards. (I'm looking at you aggy eric.)
 
agriod eric,

Why do ewe care? Dont ewe have cheerleading practice or something like that to go to?
 
A&M out...TCU in for 2012/13 season. Expected to play in 2012 per Big 12. Not sure if Big east has any impact on this since TCU never made it to BE conference.

WVU in for 2012/13 season per Big 12 release but Big East says 27 months making it early 2013 at the earliest - I bet this will be settled to allow WVU to play in 2012.

Mizzou probably headed to SEC or they hope so.

I actually hope they decide to stay even though they have wanted to leave for some time. That would result in 11 teams for 2012/13 season.

I am an unabashed traditionalist and do not like the WVU addition even though it probably makes TV footprint sense. I feel a conference ought to be geographically based. Academic prominence is not a big concern to me but is to many and the choice of WVU does not do much in that regard. So, as we all know despite how many times we hear otherwise, this is all about TV revenues.

I have a feeling that the addition of WVU will be followed by another team or two from east of the Missisissippi to provide WVU a regional rival (Louisville, Cincinnati Rutgers or OMG ND). Maybe this is all a masterplan to lure ND into the B12 fold.

Put WVU, LOU or ND, Mizzou, KU, KSU and ISU in one division and UT, TT, TCU, Bay, OU & OkSt in the other. Re-establish the CCGame to add a few more $$. Hmmm, could be worse, I guess. Could have kept TAMU. Neb and CU around.
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Oh well, enough of my meandering thoughts. Time for something constructive...lunch!



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don't know to whom i need to say "F U" more...mitch mcwhatshisface or eric agroid. guess i'll go with mitch...he gets paid to be a douche, eric does it for free.
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Did ewe get that agroid eric. He nailed it right off the bat..."aggy out". Please, if you have anything else you think you need to add, have Prop Joe do it for you. He is much better at it.
 
A 16-team league won't be happening, but this is the way I would like to see the B2's mid-major additions play out for what I think is a maximal combination of sports, market potential, and recruiting (rankings by 2010 attendance):

Done & In:

34. West Virginia: 56,325
56. Texas Christian: 42,466 (35,000 during stadium upgrade)

On to 14:

42. Louisville: 50,648 (Kentucky exposure + basketball)
44. East Carolina: 49,665 (North Carolina exposure)
50. Rutgers: 46,195 (NYC/NJ exposure)
58. South Florida: 40,849 (Florida exposure + recruiting)

About Number 15:

63. Central Florida: 39,614 (more Florida exposure + USF rivalry), or
66. Connecticut: 38,248 (more NYC exposure + Rutgers rivalry + basketball), or
69. Cincinnati: 35,067 (Ohio exposure + WVU/Louisville rivalry)

Or, for additional protection of City of Houston recruiting,

75. Houston: 31,728, or
82. Rice: 25,571 (AAU)

Shared Number 16:

14. Notre Dame: 80,795 (non-football + other well-known advantages), and,
27. BYU: 61,381 (football only + national following), or
86. Tulane: 23,220 (football only + Louisiana exposure + recruiting)

Left Out:

59. Air Force: 40,093 (claim to have rejected B2 inquiries)
73. Boise State: 33,269
85. SMU: 23,515
87. Colorado State: 22,400
89. New Mexico: 20,888
91. UNLV: 20,612
95. FIU: 19,808
96. Nevada: 19,576
 
The Big East will demand HUGE $$$$ to let WVU play in the Big12 in 2012.

Guess that will put pressure on Mizzo and A&M to pay some extra $$$ to cover WVU timely arrival..
 
I guess WV and the B2 are onto something because in the joint teleconference this afternoon it was announced that WV will become a full member of the B2 on July 1, 2012.

It would appear Texas catches West Virginia in Austin in a B2 conference game in 2012. I'll tell ya: These WV fans are like kids in a candy store. They are some kind of happy boys and girls today.
 
I am really happy for WV, TCU and the conference as a whole. It's great to see schools excited about coming to the Big XII instead of leaving it.
 
I hope the Big 12 knows what they are doing in holding at ten members for now. We might find the conference will lose potential members they are high on right now (i.e., BYU).

The New York Times has reported Boise State has made it known that it would like a western partner should it join the Big East, meaning that Air Force’s role in the future of the league becomes even more critical. It is also possible that Brigham Young could emerge as a more serious candidate now that the Big 12 is holding at ten members. The Cougars would meet Boise’s definition of a western partner.
 
BYU probably isn't happening.The Link

I think the schools wanted them, but the TV people felt BYU was too much work and with the threat of voiding/altering the existing contract looming, they won out.
 
Santafe

I got early 2013 by mistakenly leaving 12 months off my count. Should have been 2014 for the Big East exit date. Thanks for pointing out the error.

I still feel an early exit will be negotiated for WVU if Mizzou does indeed bail out. My preference is still that MU stays in the B12.

Maybe there is a 3 way agreement being worked out.... WVU stays in BEast until Mizzou gets an invite from SEC who has said they are not inclined to expand further right now.

In the B12 press release, WVU is described as a full member for the 2012/2013 season. Does that definitely mean they will play football that season? I don't know.
 
By far, the two best adds out there (not including the Domers) are BYU and West Virginia. WV is done.

BYU doesn't look good, though, for the reasons pertaining to TV discussed upthread. However, there was another article wherein BYU's Tom Holmoe vowed to keep BYU in the running.

I like Santafe's idea of adding BYU as a football only member. That would solve the Sunday issue. However, who knows if any headway can be made with respect to BYU's manifold additional demands:

1) BYU will not play on Sundays while the Networks are pushing for the Big 12 NCAA basketball tourney champ on Sunday.

2) BYU is demanding a minimum of 4 national broadcast games and all the non-broadcast conference games to be on BYUtv.

3) BYU is insisting that the BYUtv announcers and support people control the games.

4) BYU wants to televise its replays in less than 30 hours after the live game, which is a network no-no.

Numbers 2 and 3 are just non-starters in any league. For some reason, number 4 is a big deal, too. I have a personal problem with number 1 because I don't think religion should ever impinge a sports league.

Therefore, I don't think BYU is a critical add right now since their demands are difficult and since they are independent. If BYU wants to go to the BE, then I don't see how their demands are any more easily met by the BE than by the B2.

I think the question is whether the B2 will want to add any more of the BE teams, like Louisville, since the money to leave the BE doubles to $10M as soon as any other school is added to the BE.
 
I would hope the Big 12 is talking to BYU. Given BYU's huge alumni and solid fan base, one would think that BYU as a football-only member would bring more to the Big 12 than any of the potential candidates that are currently available (except for Notre Dame).

Wouldn't the addition of Louisville, BYU, TCU, and West Virginia significantly increase the next Big 12 TV contract? Then, if you could convince Notre Dame to join as a non-football member, well, that would be a huge bonus for this conference.

Notre Dame is considering leaving the Big East, but that decision won't happen until after the 2011 football season is over.
 
For the B2, I think realignment is now on hold until Notre Dame makes its next move. "Expansion is not on the horizon," according to Neinas.

ND has said it will consider its non-football affiliation early next year. Until then, I expect the B2 to show quiet to the outside, with many calls going on in the inside.
 
Again, Marinatto says the Big East will hold WVU, Pitt, and Syracuse to the 27-month exit rule.

But, according to the WVU football discussion boards, apparently the buyouts are $5M and 27 months, or $21M to leave immediately. Rumor is that WVU is paying the $5, and the Big 12 is using the exit fees from A&M and Mizzou to pay the remaining $16 to spring WVU for next season.

Syracuse and Pitt say that they will enter the ACC next year if WVU exits the Big East in nine months.

All the Big East needs is an the injunction to be in place long enough that WVU is locked into 2012. This can't be too hard to obtain, especially with outside counsel.

This is getting to be a soap opera.
 
any chance the big east falls apart with 3 of their football schools leaving? people were speculating the big 12 would fall apart if texas and/or OU left. if WV, Pitt, Syracuse leave, there's not much left in the big east. no marquis program to uphold the conference banner. if they dissolve, then, there's nothing to hold them to the big east.

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