Offensive Play Calling

that last possession… i won’t go into the laundry list of things we coulda done that aren’t even that creative… but better than the “page 1” crap we did.

very disappointing and very discouraging.
 
I don't think it was the play calling as much as it was the execution. The passes QE missed on the receiver was open most of the time. That means you limit the execution on the QB or the OL not allowing QE to get comfortable in the pocket.
 
Phil Elliott said:
Ok but if ur qb is having a bad day throwing the ball, why do u keep calling for him to hit on bombs?
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I'm very curious how much of this is Sark calling and how much of it is Quinn choosing that read. On the fourth down of the second to last drive, they called the wheel route to Bijan and it sure looked to me like Quinn had decided from the snap that he was going there regardless. The point of that play is to throw it when it isn't covered but then to take what they vacate when they DO cover it, and it looked to me like on that play - and a bunch of other ones - Quinn just skipped the read and assumed it would be there.
 
Last drive, several good completions. JT has been nails, but he should have caught the final pass that was intercepted. That was a good throw. Hell, he caught the pass between 2 defenders earlier that most would say had a much greater level of difficulty to catch knowing he was going to be drilled right away.
 
Last drive, several good completions.
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We finally started using quick medium-length routes over the middle. Seen it a million times with many different teams over the years, where coaches wait until they are desperate late in the 4th to switch up their passing game and suddenly the offense starts clicking. Our loss to Iowa State in 2019 is another great example.

But beyond that I think our problems were more execution and mentality than they were scheme. For example our early 4th and 3, it felt like everyone said we failed because we got too cute. And I hate it when teams facing 3rd/4th and short do stuff like line up in 5 wide and telegraph pass. But they had been stacking the line (we ran for no gain on 2nd & 3 and 3rd & 3), so passing off of play action makes sense to me there.

It didn't work because one guy on OSU read the play perfectly, and Whittington, who should have blocked him, whiffed on the block completely. Frustrating, but Whittington has done a great job blocking this year and nobody gets every single one. A play that fakes a handoff to a dangerous runner to draw people in, and then just needs arguably our best blocking WR to stop the LB or safety in order to succeed, is probably a reasonable call. Sometimes "play calling" just means "I wish we'd only ever calls plays that end up succeeding".
 
ProdigalHorn said:
I'm very curious how much of this is Sark calling and how much of it is Quinn choosing that read. On the fourth down of the second to last drive, they called the wheel route to Bijan and it sure looked to me like Quinn had decided from the snap that he was going there regardless. The point of that play is to throw it when it isn't covered but then to take what they vacate when they DO cover it, and it looked to me like on that play - and a bunch of other ones - Quinn just skipped the read and assumed it would be there.
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That’s often the case. The QB has options. Sometimes the QB makes a reasonable choice, but it doesn’t work out. Sometimes they make a bad choice, and it works out. I’m not sure Bijan was ever open. But Quinn drew the safety over. That’s completely on the QB. Now had he come to Whitt or even Sanders after bringing the safety over, that would have been a great play.

It happens to all QBs on missing guys, but Ewers was too concerned with going deeper yesterday.
 
Statalyzer said:
We finally started using quick medium-length routes over the middle. Seen it a million times with many different teams over the years, where coaches wait until they are desperate late in the 4th to switch up their passing game and suddenly the offense starts clicking. Our loss to Iowa State in 2019 is another great example.

But beyond that I think our problems were more execution and mentality than they were scheme. For example our early 4th and 3, it felt like everyone said we failed because we got too cute. And I hate it when teams facing 3rd/4th and short do stuff like line up in 5 wide and telegraph pass. But they had been stacking the line (we ran for no gain on 2nd & 3 and 3rd & 3), so passing off of play action makes sense to me there.

It didn't work because one guy on OSU read the play perfectly, and Whittington, who should have blocked him, whiffed on the block completely. Frustrating, but Whittington has done a great job blocking this year and nobody gets every single one. A play that fakes a handoff to a dangerous runner to draw people in, and then just needs arguably our best blocking WR to stop the LB or safety in order to succeed, is probably a reasonable call. Sometimes "play calling" just means "I wish we'd only ever calls plays that end up succeeding".
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Largely true, but Sark calls a lot of plays in that situation that require fooling the defense. If you don’t that requires flawless execution. I’d prefer to go beyond the sticks so if I do catch it, I get the first.
 
You gotta know when the other team is on to the straight up the middle run with Bijan, yet Sark couldn’t come up with much else.
 
old65horn said:
My only observation was that during the 2nd half drought, we ran the inside zone run on 1st down 80% of the time. Problem was they loaded the box snd ran Tun blitzs every 1st down. That puts us well behind the chains most of the 2nd half.
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Same thing we did against Tech on the 2nd and 3rd to last drives. Run on 1st, run on 2nd, pass on 3rd and long.
 
With the speed and athleticism ATT skill positions on offense, QE could have been throwing the ball no further than 3-4 yards, and the chains would have kept moving - YAC. Opens running lanes out of the backfield as well.
 
WorsterMan said:
^^^ sometimes I too tire of predictable runs up the gut in the Red Zone with D in goal line stacked formation, with small techniques / holes to run through.

Often I yell out fake a TB drive up the gut and:

Fake handoff, QB rollout and hit receivers on quick crisscrossing pattern on the wide side of the field.

Pitch to HB dragging to one side or the other.

Bootleg QB run or pass.

Hit TE quick in the flat or over the middle.

Point is, mix it up better... become less predictable!!
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What ever happened to the Speed Sweep? The Shovel Pass? Dragging the TE across the middle? I like it all except the patented Greg Davis "Hitch Pass"!! LOL
 
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