Obama's SC Victory Speech
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MaduroUTMB
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He will be truly loved during the first year, and he will be truly hated during the last 3. Barack is good for the nation, and for Republicans.
Brubricker
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4th&5 wrote:
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Texas_Curl
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if obama won, john paul stevens would retire the day after the election.
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RyanUTAustin
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For the people who say he is running on ideas / policies that ever politician does...well that is the way to win.
If he comes out with some far fetched ideas the media would attack him.
I guess the republicans running on no new taxes and keep the war going and be afraid of terrorism are new ideas?
If he comes out with some far fetched ideas the media would attack him.
I guess the republicans running on no new taxes and keep the war going and be afraid of terrorism are new ideas?
Whatever your opinion of him, he just put a serious beatdown on HRC in South Carolina. Turnout completely overwhelmed pollsters models and SC's primary history. He doubled up Hillary, beat her in every category except voters over 65, and showed once again that undecideds will break big for him if he continues to be viable.
He has yet to under-perform in any contest, and his lowest % thus far is 37%. He's made 10-20 point turnarounds in every state inside of a 6 weeks.
This race is still quite fluid, and if Clinton's camp continues to lean on their old models and keeps trying to piece off large voting blocs, it will only benefit Obama.
He has yet to under-perform in any contest, and his lowest % thus far is 37%. He's made 10-20 point turnarounds in every state inside of a 6 weeks.
This race is still quite fluid, and if Clinton's camp continues to lean on their old models and keeps trying to piece off large voting blocs, it will only benefit Obama.
A number of you seem to have interpreted incorrectly my observations about Obama's speech. Clearly other politicians sell motherhood too. And clearly motherhood, not specific policies, is what works. And clearly a victory speech is not the time for a policy speech. But don't point to a victory speech as evidence that he's for anything. It's evidence of his charisma and poilitical skills but not of his approach to governance.
I'm not convinced that oratorical skills are an important selection criterium for a President. (Not irrelevant but way down the list.) There is a difference between a good politician and a good leader. Oratorical skills are very important for one but not as much for the other. Tell me why the speech shows he'll get elected but not why he'll be a good (or bad) President.
I'm not convinced that oratorical skills are an important selection criterium for a President. (Not irrelevant but way down the list.) There is a difference between a good politician and a good leader. Oratorical skills are very important for one but not as much for the other. Tell me why the speech shows he'll get elected but not why he'll be a good (or bad) President.
drunkfan#1
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Two things stand out at me every time I hear an Obama speech; 1) How eloquent and presidential the speech sounds, and 2) How little of substance is actually said in the speech.
Politicians have been using vague words like "change" and "unite" over and over again. I really don't understand how people can be excited over voting for Obama when he seems to be the most shallow candidate out there.
Politicians have been using vague words like "change" and "unite" over and over again. I really don't understand how people can be excited over voting for Obama when he seems to be the most shallow candidate out there.
How ironic that a person who has chosen Drunkfan as his name calls someone shallow.
If you want to know where he stands on the issues important to you, it is only a computer click away on his website. Alternatively, you can go listen to him speak on the campaign trail where he talks specifics all the time.
Let’s look at his “shallow” life. He did not grow up with many advantages. He never really knew his dad and attended grade school in Indonesia where he was taught in Indonesian. He did not attend English speaking schools until he moved to Hawaii where he lived with his grandparents. He also had the burden of being bi-racial growing up with his white Mom and white grandparents.
Notwithstanding his less than ideal childhood, he was accepted and earned his undergrad degree at Columbia University. After Columbia, he moved to Chicago where he became a community organizer with a church-based group seeking to improve living conditions in poor neighborhoods plagued with crime and high unemployment. He was not paid well, but gained the satisfaction that he was helping those less fortunate, hardly a shallow motivation.
He then attended Harvard Law and was elected as President of the Harvard Law Review and graduated magna cum laude. Having attended UT Law, I can assure you that you cannot live a shallow life and end up the President of the Law Review. As far as I know, none of the other Presidential candidates who are also lawyers even made law review, much less President of the most prestigious Law Review.
After law school, he went back to Chicago and worked as civil rights lawyer and taught Constitutional law at the prestigious University of Chicago (his students gave him very high marks each year.)
He also ran for and won a seat in the Illinois Senate that he held for 8 years. He has been praised for his effectiveness as a legislator by both Dems and Repubs. In fact, one of his commercials is a testimonial from a Repub who served with him in the Illinois senate.
Although not politically smart when 70% of Americans favored invading Iraq, he gave a speech stating that he had not seen enough evidence to establish that Iraq was an imminent threat that required us to invade. He also stated that if we did invade, putting Iraq back together again would be very difficult because of the tribal and religious differences between the Kurds, Shias, and Sunnis.
With many to choose from, Kerry chose Obama to deliver the coveted keynote speech at the Dem convention in 04, a speech that was acclaimed by many on both the right and left.
He then won a landslide election to the US Senate becoming only the third black to be elected to the Senate.
In the meantime, he wrote two best selling books and married Michelle who has accomplished a lot in her own right. Together, they are raising two wonderful daughters. I had the pleasure of meeting Michelle and her daughters when she was in SD for a fund raiser. They are very well behaved and smart kids.
I am proud of the life I have lived, but compared to Barack, you would have to call my life shallow.
If you want to know where he stands on the issues important to you, it is only a computer click away on his website. Alternatively, you can go listen to him speak on the campaign trail where he talks specifics all the time.
Let’s look at his “shallow” life. He did not grow up with many advantages. He never really knew his dad and attended grade school in Indonesia where he was taught in Indonesian. He did not attend English speaking schools until he moved to Hawaii where he lived with his grandparents. He also had the burden of being bi-racial growing up with his white Mom and white grandparents.
Notwithstanding his less than ideal childhood, he was accepted and earned his undergrad degree at Columbia University. After Columbia, he moved to Chicago where he became a community organizer with a church-based group seeking to improve living conditions in poor neighborhoods plagued with crime and high unemployment. He was not paid well, but gained the satisfaction that he was helping those less fortunate, hardly a shallow motivation.
He then attended Harvard Law and was elected as President of the Harvard Law Review and graduated magna cum laude. Having attended UT Law, I can assure you that you cannot live a shallow life and end up the President of the Law Review. As far as I know, none of the other Presidential candidates who are also lawyers even made law review, much less President of the most prestigious Law Review.
After law school, he went back to Chicago and worked as civil rights lawyer and taught Constitutional law at the prestigious University of Chicago (his students gave him very high marks each year.)
He also ran for and won a seat in the Illinois Senate that he held for 8 years. He has been praised for his effectiveness as a legislator by both Dems and Repubs. In fact, one of his commercials is a testimonial from a Repub who served with him in the Illinois senate.
Although not politically smart when 70% of Americans favored invading Iraq, he gave a speech stating that he had not seen enough evidence to establish that Iraq was an imminent threat that required us to invade. He also stated that if we did invade, putting Iraq back together again would be very difficult because of the tribal and religious differences between the Kurds, Shias, and Sunnis.
With many to choose from, Kerry chose Obama to deliver the coveted keynote speech at the Dem convention in 04, a speech that was acclaimed by many on both the right and left.
He then won a landslide election to the US Senate becoming only the third black to be elected to the Senate.
In the meantime, he wrote two best selling books and married Michelle who has accomplished a lot in her own right. Together, they are raising two wonderful daughters. I had the pleasure of meeting Michelle and her daughters when she was in SD for a fund raiser. They are very well behaved and smart kids.
I am proud of the life I have lived, but compared to Barack, you would have to call my life shallow.
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i'm neither rep/dem, but i've generally voted rep. between mccain and obama right now.. .. but i really, really like obama more and am leaning towards voting for him.
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