Now We Know: Aston is Out

JoeDallas said:
This board is getting what it wanted. It will be nice for this board not to be dominated by scathing, hateful diatribes about how awful KA is. What will this board have to get stirred up about? Now it's time to see what someone else does. We need to make some good advances soon to prove that CDC knows what he's doing. If beating Baylor soon is a major factor in how the new coach is judged, as the AAS implies, don't get your hopes too high. I hope we can get someone who can put it all together, but dreaming about Graves or Staley wanting to come here is being out of touch with reality.
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And trust me.....it's equally as rewarding to look forward to what will hopefully be a competent coach, and to see those who blindly heaped praise on her irrespective of her obvious shortcomings, ineptitude at times, and mediocre results based on the talent she had finally be silenced. The facts are there....her recruiting had and would have continued to fall off and her results were not going to get better...only worse. Pointing those things out has NOTHING to do with hate.... I'm excited about the future and hopefully we will all be excited about the new hire.. However, for right now, I wish everyone good health and safety.....
 
It will be nice for this board not to be dominated by scathing, hateful diatribes about how awful KA is.
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It'd be even nicer if we just stopped having scathing, hateful diatribes regardless of who the coach is.
 
I find it mildly interesting that as of 2 pm today, Aston has not issued a formal departure communications. I realize that yesterday was raw and probably still is today; however, if she doesn't say "something" later today then it opens up questions of how it came down. Typically nothing is really revealed in player transfer announcements or these coaching change communications. However, it will be interesting to see what Aston says. Or has she already issued one and I just missed it?
 
loyallonghorn said:
I get the gist of the article. But it was much more than just Baylor. It was losing to Hawaii, Kansas, Kansas State, TCU, South Florida and the likes who have way less talent than Texas that got old and tiring.
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Mechelle is a skilled writer but she can be very superficial and reductionist. This latest article is a prime example of that.

Beating Baylor should be neither the ultimate goal nor the definition of success. Will it be a byproduct of success? Hell yes. Obviously, if we're getting blown out regularly by any team and only beating them in 1 out of 20 tries, that's a sign that we haven't arrived yet.
 
HnH said:
Mechelle is a skilled writer but she can be very superficial and reductionist. This latest article is a prime example of that.

Beating Baylor should be neither the ultimate goal nor the definition of success. Will it be a byproduct of success? Hell yes. Obviously, if we're getting blown out regularly by any team and only beating them in 1 out of 20 tries, that's a sign that we haven't arrived yet.
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Let’s hope that CDC decided to fire her because of the other things. Firing a coach solely for not being able to beat one team is very dangerous.
 
kurupt said:
Let’s hope that CDC decided to fire her because of the other things. Firing a coach solely for not being able to beat one team is very dangerous.
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There are millions of examples of coaches (even fairly successful ones) getting fired for not being able to beat one particular team. Especially if that team is in your same division/conference. Because that same team often bars you from winning conference titles and ultimately national titles.

If a coach is not in contention for a conference title regularly they will always be in the hot seat at Texas. Shaka is the only one who has thus far survived it, and it’s because of a double standard it’s because of money plain and simple. If Karen was owed millions, I have no doubt that she’d be returning as well.
 
utfannforlife said:
There are millions of examples of coaches (even fairly successful ones) getting fired for not being able to beat one particular team. Especially if that team is in your same division/conference. Because that same team often bars you from winning conference titles and ultimately national titles.

If a coach is not in contention for a conference title regularly they will always be in the hot seat at Texas. Shaka is the only one who has thus far survived it, and it’s because of a double standard it’s because of money plain and simple. If Karen was owed millions, I have no doubt that she’d be returning as well.
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Then that would mean that the entire conference should fire their coaches on both the men’s and women’s side in the big 12 since Baylor and Kansas basically win the conference every year most of the time without any loses. Like I said, let’s hope it was the combination of things.
 
I wonder how long it's going to take to hire a new coach. Given these circumstances I wonder if CDC is looking to hire a coach immediately like as of next week or will this search take some time.
 
kurupt said:
Then that would mean that the entire conference should fire their coaches on both the men’s and women’s side in the big 12 since Baylor and Kansas basically win the conference every year most of the time without any loses. Like I said, let’s hope it was the combination of things.
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Expectations are different on the 40. Coaches know that and players know that. No one comes into this blind. When you’re relegated to “also ran” status @ Texas is going to be time for a change. ESPECIALLY when a coach is at the end of a contract.
 
utfannforlife said:
Expectations are different on the 40. Coaches know that and players know that. No one comes into this blind. When you’re relegated to “also ran” status @ Texas is going to be time for a change. ESPECIALLY when a coach is at the end of a contract.
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For sure. I really think the softball program is what really put these expectations in action because it shows if you can't win then CDC will find someone who can. Mike White turned the program into the best in the nation in 1 season at Texas. That goes to show nobody's job is safe and if you can't get it done then someone will gladly step in.
 
utfannforlife said:
Expectations are different on the 40. Coaches know that and players know that. No one comes into this blind. When you’re relegated to “also ran” status @ Texas is going to be time for a change. ESPECIALLY when a coach is at the end of a contract.
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They maybe different but are they realistic. ESPECIALLY a program that hasn’t been consistently great in 30+ years.
 
Jacob Johnson said:
For sure. I really think the softball program is what really put these expectations in action because it shows if you can't win then CDC will find someone who can. Mike White turned the program into the best in the nation in 1 season at Texas. That goes to show nobody's job is safe and if you can't get it done then someone will gladly step in.
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Mike White had the benefit of the softball rules that allowed 3 of his best players from Oregon to follow him and play right away. That just doesn’t happen in basketball.
 
kurupt said:
I think folks better be patient. It’s going to be a long process in trying to realistically compete with Baylor even with a new coach especially if the better players on the team decide to transfer.
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No, “if”...we are losing 4 or 5...and several of the best...:brickwall:
 
BBV_Horn said:
No, “if”...we are losing 4 or 5...and several of the best...:brickwall:
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I recall a similar prediction by you that Karen Aston would remain the coach, and well.....we see how that turned out!!! Like I said, it is going to depend on WHO they bring in and if they can connect and persuade everyone or most to stay!!!!!
 
HnH said:
Not yet, but that's fixing to change.
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That may or may not happen tell next year with meetings about it being pushed back. And even then if 3 players do follow the coach will one be maybe the best player in basketball like Elish is in softball and the other 2 very good as well?
 
brnkj said:
Well, I guess we will see... I mean now that Vic Schaefer has been hired and all. :popcorn:
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Well, I can say brnkj that you and bobcat, and Moooo have been right and I’ve been wrong on just about everything regarding this coaching situation.
 
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kurupt said:
Well, I can say brnkj that you and bobcat, and Moooo have been right and I’ve been wrong on just about everything regarding this coaching situation.
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Bro don't worry about that... Let's all get excited together again. We have had some differences of opinions and some not, but we all love our program and want it to be where it belongs... perennial Top 10. No harm, no foul man.
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kurupt said:
Well, I can say brnkj that you and bobcat, and Moooo have been right and I’ve been wrong on just about everything regarding this coaching situation.
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Here is the bottom line my friend..... EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this forum wants to see Texas WBB succeed. I believe that. I've been driving back and forth from Dallas to almost all home games since 1996. I've invested alot of time and money into supporting this program, and like so many, I want to see us be successful. We may vehemently disagree on some things, but our collective desire to see this program succeed is shared by all of us. This is a home run hire, and I for one am ECSTATIC.... We ALL have something to really be excited about my friend and even if we disagree at times, I certainly appreciate the passion and support of Texas WBB by EVERY SINGLE PERSON....
 
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