North pole to melt this year?

they have significantly weakened their statement GT....well, i should say that is a guess. if this is more or less the same as their old statement i am fine with either statement. regardless, it has much in it that shows their uncertainty and i respect their honesty. if all the other organizations had the same level of uncertainty i wouldn't have too much of a complaint.
 
i have not updated in well over a month....so here is the ice update

we have remained near the bottom of the past 9 years in terms of 15% or more extent.

sea ice extent

but above average in terms of 30% or more sea ice extent according the Danish Meteorological Institute...which is interesting. Of course the DMI has only 6 years of records so it is less meaningful in one sense.

DMI >30% graph
 
hasn't melted yet! and it doesn't look like it will melt anytime soon....the doom and gloom is going to get more and more awkward as we move forward in time and don't reach any new benchmarks of disaster.
 
I saw that, but I didn't see anything in the article call it a negative feedback...

It was just that what you were describing sounded more like a positive feedback (i.e. amplification of phenomena)...so, the ice effect is more a local phenomena, a byproduct...
 
BTW, since I haven't paid much attention to this thread (and don't feel like reading eleventy billion posts), to what are they referencing when they refer to record minimums with regard to arctic sea ice extent?
 
well texoz...if it is a NEGATIVE feedback, then things will get cooler as a result, so you should be happy right? i think we are miscommunicating...my sense from the literature is that positive feedbacks make things warmer and negative make them cooler. have i oversimplified the term? is it more like the negation of whatever the effect or the positive of whatever the effect? in other words, can it mean different things depending on the mechanism being described?
 
why does no one mention the fact that warming increases growing possibilities in northern climes and doesn't stop southern climes from having growing seasons? if we were forced to choose between cooling and warming it would be an EASY choice....what we have experienced is a blessing compared to what it could be!

interestingly enough....a new study out shows that Ellesmere Island had a MWP that was 2 to 3 Celsius warmer than the past 100 years. this was 800 to 1200 AD. i wonder if it was anthropogenic?

Paper presented at the American Geophysical Union
 
amusing piece in the Telegraph by the Mayor of London....basically mocks the multi-million dollar computer that uses models to predict weather and fails time and time again when a guy with public data and a laptop (Piers Corbin) can predict the weather correctly well in advance. as an aside, Joe Bastardi is good at predicting weather many months in advance as well.
 
sea ice is very low for this time of year in the arctic.....i am interested to see what happens as the winter progresses......
 
I live about 80 miles from the gulf. mop, so basically what your telling me is I wasted $15k building a dock and boat house on the south side of my house.
 
I think I am going to build an arc. Does anyone want to gather the animals for me? I'll give you a spot on the boat for you and your significant other.
 
yeah texoz...fascinating eh? that was the most extreme AO on record...of course our record is quite short at 30 years, but i still find it fascinating!
 
“The arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot. Reports all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the arctic zone. Expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.”

—US Weather Bureau, 1922
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let's see how we finish march and april.....and the Antarctic (where 90% of the world's glacial ice resides) is doing great!
 
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