No New Mosques Until Muslims Denounce Violence?

Well, the Christian "leaders" (if you can call the Pope that) didn't denounce the Christian atrocities committed against Jews and Muslims until the 1960s, so once Islam is 1,930 years old, maybe they'll start denouncing stuff to appease angry Americans. So put the year 2530 on your calendar and start the countdown.

Does it really take someone "denouncing" something (in spite of the obviousness that they don't speak for everyone) to help get through a situation like this?
 
I can tell when a person has definitely lost his argument when he throws the racism card out. Dems/libs use it to blow the conversation to hell.
 
You win dillohorn. You have indeed remained oblivious to Muslim denuciations of Muslim terrorism in the face of numerous factual examples of Muslims condemning Muslim violence. You receive a Texas Republican Party Honorary Doctorate in honor of suporting the party platform's repeated assaults on a the dangerous academic practice of teaching critcal thinking skill. Your refusal to use critical thinking skills and instead cling to factually-unsupported conclusions delivered by Fox News even after they have been factually refuted shows the kind of personal tenaciousness that make you a supporter Republican leaders can count on. Again, Congratulations. You win.
 
Congratulations NJlonghorn, "in 5 minutes on the net" you were able to dig up a few old quotes from Ellison. I said that I didn't find much, not that I couldn't find any. Forgive me if they didn't convince me that Ellison is trying to make a difference.
 
OK Clean -- I'm troubled because a local associate pastor has been credibly accused of molesting young boys. From whom should I request a denunciation. I think Rick Warren is the most prominent Christian Pastor in the US, but maybe I should take it up with Pope Francis? Or maybe you can suggest an appropriate political figure? The clergy and the molested boy were both white and evangelical, if that figures into the calculation.
 
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You're right about that. (Hey our DA and Denton County Courts know how to handle these perps -- no outside help required) But to me it seems approximately as sensible as holding Mr. Ellison accountable for a mall attack in Kenya.
 
Details of the Kenyan Mall Massacre are beginning to leak out. I don't know if it's true, but if it is, you probably won't hear much about it in the American press.


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Clean........and the truth is that no one will be surprised by these atrocities. It has become expected when Islam is involved.
 
^^ Only someone unaware of current Islamic events/actions would not expect this type of activity by Muslims........or maybe just PC experts.
 
I used to think the extremists were a small minority, but now I just don't know.

I cam across this blog and some of the stuff on there, while obviously biased, scares the hell out of me.

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I can understand reluctance by mainstream media to go into horrific details about such events. Some readers/listeners/viewers would be offended.
How anyone can see such cruelty as service to a just and loving God /Allah is incomprehensible. i don't know how you can win widespread support when putting you in power will institute horrifically barbaric behavior.
 
who said they were rational?

This kind of horror show is somewhat common when dealing with primitive barbarians who worship a stone age god.

Look at some of the ghastly things the old testament god ordered of his worshippers. His followers now have become more civiilized over the centuries but My Lais sitll happen now and then

Face to face butchery is still pretty shocking even if spraying defoliants and napalming canopied jungles can accomplish like results
 
Clean, you started by using Congressman Ellison as an example of someone whose "silence" regarding terrorism leaves you unable to determine "where he stands". In your words:

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I think what people here want is for Ellison and others, whoever they may be, to begin every speech they make with "I denounce terrorism!" and then proceed with their remarks.

This would also go for any editorial, bill or interview they give. It would be like a greeting upon meeting someone. "Hello Mr. ________, I denounce terrorism!!! How are you today?"

I suspect only something like this would satisfy those who want Muslims to "do more" to condemn it.

I guess after a bombing CAIR could buy TV time or have a press conference just to make it crystal clear that they dont support those actions.

On a related note, since we are a "Christian" country and all, or at least ruled over, er represented by predominantly Christians in D.C., why dont we as a nation simply turn the other cheek when there is a terrorist attack and say "we forgive you for you do not know what you do?"

We like to bash Muslims in the Middle East for fatwas and jihad, and pretend we are so much better than them because they are a so called barbaric religion, but we have killed and destroyed way more than any terrorist has in the name of Islam. We as an assumed Christian country have been SO FREAKIN NOT Christian over the years, it really is laughable that we can sit back and criticize the heathen Muslims for terror attacks and then turn around and bomb the hell out of entire countries, drone attack wedding parties and starve hundreds of thousands with sanctions, not to mention radiate those countries with depleted uranium that will keep on giving for years and years and years.
 
From Wikipedia:

"Jasser is an outspoken supporter of Israel,[32] and believes that Muslim organizations and leaders need to be held to a litmus test to see whether they recognize Israel as a state, specifically condemn groups such as Hamas and Al Qaeda, and governments such as the Saudi and Syrian dictatorships. "If they don't ... then you have to wonder where their allegiances are," said Jasser"

Of course you like him.
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Wondering aloud where one's allegiance lies if they dont fully support Israel? He sounds more like a lobbyist for AIPAC.
 
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