No new HOF electees

[Mesohorny]

first time since 1996

biggio 68%
jack morris 67% (1 more year)
bags 59%
schilling 38%

clemens 37%
bonds 36%
sosa 12%

clemens and bonds will be waiting a few more years

 

[Handler XIII]

Writers are such a joke...

 

[notanative]

Aren't Cialis, Levitra, and Viagra performance-enhancing drugs? Aren't multi-vitamins?

 

[Hornilicious]

Seriously, Biggio didn't get in? 3,000 hit club playing 2B mostly? Played hard? Family man? No one has ever accused him of using PED's, that I know of anyway?

Shame on some of these writers. I understand making a statement or whatever, but what the hell kind of statement does it make to not put in someone like Biggio?

 

[majorwhiteapples]

If I were Bonds or Clemens, I would wait and do all the right things, once elected and in speech just blast the process and take all of their memorabila out of the hall and never have anything to do with it.

I know they won't but that would be awesome, baseball writers have way too much power in electing Hall of Fames.

 

[Horns11]

Biggio will get in eventually.

Jack Morris doesn't deserve to be in there. His WHIP is average. He had one great postseason game that defined his entire career.

I think all of the 'roids guys will eventually get in. But they need to be punished for a few years before the flood gates open and younger voters go back to the stats and what was working in the 90s and 00s. You can't keep Clemens and Bonds out forever.

 

[Mesohorny]

I think Biggio will get in next year because many voters didn't see him as a 1st ballot player, but probably a 2nd - 3rd year. I don't believe he was perceived nationwide as a great player as much as he was to Astros fans.

The guys on MLB Network were surprised that Clemens and Bonds didn't get at least 50% - no one expected them to get in today - but those 36-37% totals are abt what McGwire started with, and his vote has steadily decreased. Granted, he doesn't have the career numbers of the other two, but they may be waiting a long time. Re Pete Rose.

Also suprising to me that Bernie Williams, Kenny Lofton, Alomar Jr, Julio Franco, and David Wells all rec'd less 5% (Wells less than 1%) and are one and done. None are HOFers, but I would have thought all of those guys would have been on the ballot for at least a few years.

 

[watashi]

Sanctimonious a-holes.

 

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[Horns11]

Statistical analysis related to percent of vote in first eligible years versus when guys actually get in hasn't delved into this new gray area before. No one worried whether or not Dale Murphy was taking PEDs.

Once the era settles down a little and new guys start voting for the honor, there's no doubt Bonds and Clemens at the least get in. I could see McGwire and Sosa being left out, but that's probably because they're not as good as Bonds and Clemens at what they accomplished.

 

[l00p]

They need to go back and take away Hank's too. That dude was a doper. Back then just about if not all of them were. Steroids were not known to have side affects or complications, helped you heal better, train better, play better and longer. Only a poor team member would not take them to help them and the team out. Just like if you are sleepy, have some coffee. Again, what is known now was not then.

I don't think the roiders then, the majority, are wrong for it either. It is on the current guys who know what is what and know what is allowed or not. But the records some are breaking or going after were set by people on one thing or another.

Maybe somebody will tell me that the football players that have come out in droves from the past were the only ones using them. Oh, them and wrestlers. Oh, and sprinters and gynmasts and other Olympians.

The last 25 to 30 or more years have been the Steroid Era. I wonder if anybody who gets in will come forward and turn the sport on its ear.

Baseball created this mess. They allowed if not even encouraged players to do them to shake things up and draw an audience when the sport was waning. It needed a boost and the money bags in the head office and team owners gave not a **** about the health of those guys.

Shame all the way around. Selig needs to go.