no deal

The ignorance on here is incredible. A few points:

"Stashing money in the Caymans, like Mittens" - How did they know he had money in the Caymans? It was shown in the tax returns he filed! He paid taxes on anything he earned on that money (if he had earnings that were realized that tax year)! Putting in the Caymans or other offshore account doesn't shelter it from taxes.

"I think they (Republicans) only oppose them (tax increases on the wealthy) because it impacts their contributors, but the point is that they truly do oppose them." I can't speak for all Republicans, corservatives, or Tea Partiers, but all of them I know oppose such cuts because they understand that 1. They will raise little money, 2. Will have a detrimental impact on the economy, and 3. They are patently unfair. A minority of those that I know would be personally impacted by those increases, but they still oppose them for these reasons and also maybe because most of them aspire to earn those kinds of incomes someday.

"Third, when the voters put the final nail into the GOP in 2014..." This one is just opinion, but I expect the GOP to do just fine in 2014. Without Obama on the ticket to pull in all the marginal voters, that election is likely to look more like 2010 than either 2012 or 2008. GOP will certainly hold onto the |House, and with a large number of Democrat seats in the Senate up for reelection (those that they captured in the 2008 surge), Republicans have a reasonable shot at taking back the Senate. A lot will happen before that election so definitely too soon to make any kind of prediction, but it definitely looks at least as favorable for the GOP as for the Dems.
 
the idea that Democrats spread that the system is "unfair" is a total travesty. it's a lie that caters to the uninformed and uneducated. if everyone was to pay their fair share, there would be no deductions and everyone would pay the same flat rate. The progressive tax system is a total scam. if anything, it is the 40% of the country who pay no income taxes who are not paying their fair share.

republicans should have taken the chance and forced democrats to cut entitlement spending. mandatory spending alone (not even counting domestic and military spending) puts the U.S. 200Billion in the red on the budget alone. everything else simply adds to the deficit.
 
As Krauthammer pointed out, President Obama is playing this perfectly. By asking the senate to come up with a plan, the ball is in the senate's court now. If for some reason McConnell can't agree with Reid on a compromise, then the Prez is gonna ask Reid to bring the plan to a vote on the floor.

And those who vote against it will be on the record of doing so.
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Roger35- you are an idiot. Saying most 2 percenters got their money by inheritance is just plain stupid. First of all there is nothing wrong with receiving an inheritance which has already been taxed by a lot of parents who worked their butts off to achieve. In my case, both of my parents are still alive (hence no inheritance) but I'm a self-made 2 percenter who pays more than my fair share. I climbed the corporate ladder by investing in a graduate degree, taking on greater responsibilities, and sacrificing long hours at the office while away from my family and kids. Maybe some of you libs should try to work harder and stop putting your hand out. Trust me if you made my kind of money with the work I put in you would feel different.
 
At this point, I'm actually for "no deal".

I've already insulated myself, to the extent I can, from the coming cliff dive. It will be hilarious to tune in here on January 15 when people open their paychecks and see (and feel) the true cost of no leadership in DC.

Bring it on....
 

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