NFL Draft

BevoJoe said:
What happened to Williams and Jefferson as mid to late first rounders? Jefferson I recall, was at one time a (very) later round one take, but Williams was a round 1 pick unless something changed. Thoughts?
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Not surprised about Malik, but I saw that Conner was the 4th rated OT in the draft. Interestingly, three OT's were taken last night, none of them with the initials CW.
Conner will get picked, but I suspect it will be a blood bath for the other players who left UT early.
 
rick mueller said:
Not surprised about Malik, but I saw that Conner was the 4th rated OT in the draft. Interestingly, three OT's were taken last night, none of them with the initials CW.
Conner will get picked, but I suspect it will be a blood bath for the other players who left UT early.
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I totally believe perception of program has ALOT to do with this. When you booboo the way UT has, it takes a bit to recover and rebuild confidence. I'd say UT is trending up but NFL scouts and execs are in a "show-me" mindset right now with UT and cautiously eyeing the program. I think we are reestablishing and current and incoming players will start to be drafted higher if they perform on the field.
And as for a few of these guys...It is something going on not just at UT but elsewhere, also....A lot of guys are simply just overhyped...and NFL guys can see through this. We just happen to be closer to these guys and are paying more attention, so we don't see the fact that this happens -and is happening everywhere.
Then you've got the guys going pro who aren't necessarily overhyped by anyone other than themselves...and we have a couple of those, too, as Mr.Mueller alluded to.
I expect a few of our guys to go today..at least 3..we'll see...
 
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Nothing has really changed. Williams was never going in Round 1 due to his junior year injury without surgery. The pros know the issue and prefer surgery so they will not have to pay for it in dollars and missed playing time. Thus, Williams actually left money on the table by going early.
Jefferson cannot pass defend so he will be drafted as a project, but since he has not shown any improvement in that area over his years at Texas, going early was about all he could do. All of the other underclassmen should have stayed in school.
These guys hear what they want to hear so all some agent has to do is whisper something in the ear of a person trusted by the player and off they go. The threshold should be Top 5 or consensus first at your position; not first round.
 
From purely financial standpoint, if you are going to get picked in first three rounds as a football player it makes sense to go because you never get back that lost year of earnings and the threat of injury makes risk-reward skewed. The only reason to come back is if you can improve your draft slot so much that you make up two full years earnings, the lost year and the extra year under the rookie contract you now have before you get to real money in second contract.
 
rick mueller said:
I don't have any idea what goes through his mind, but I definitely think Jerah is one of those people who thinks he is a lot smarter than he really is.
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If he is that smart then he will draft Poona as a steal later to plug that interior......currently projected at 7-8...what a joke. (I personally think he'll go sooner)
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ViperHorn said:
Williams was never going in Round 1 due to his junior year injury without surgery. The pros know the issue and prefer surgery so they will not have to pay for it in dollars and missed playing time. Thus, Williams actually left money on the table by going early.
Jefferson cannot pass defend so he will be drafted as a project, but since he has not shown any improvement in that area over his years at Texas, going early was about all he could do. All of the other underclassmen should have stayed in school.
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BINGO! That's a Solid Post Viper! Those were my thoughts about both guys situations. I agree, another year, with improved productivity by all those guys who jumped early, save for our Punter, may have been beneficial for them to move up in the draft and sign for much better money. I can understand to some extent, the "I was injured and don't want to risk another injury that might end my career" attitude. But too many of these guys and there parents in many cases are swayed by agents and some of the draft prognosticators by big money contracts and signing bonuses a high level pick brings. With a very few exceptions, I think some will be undrafted free agents hoping for an invite to a camp and might end up as a scout team player, which pays pretty good money but lacks the fame and glory they and their families ultimately seek.
 
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Run Pincher said:
Just glad he's going to the cesspool where QB's go to die. No way he has the arm strength to be #1, regardless of other intangibles.
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The fact that BM (think about that acronym) is going to Cleveland made my day. And when he flames out it will be another enjoyable day.
 
Run Pincher said:
Just glad he's going to the cesspool where QB's go to die. No way he has the arm strength to be #1, regardless of other intangibles.
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From their college production, one would have thought there was a prospect among Colt McCoy, Johnny Manziel or Robert Griffin---now Baker Mayfield. Some of the best the State of Texas has put out recently.
 
I_Dont_Exist said:
I've never had the problems with Mayfield so many others have but going 1st shocks even me. Not the greatest value at that spot.
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No, but this is Cleveland you are talking about. Taking SMART picks with that annual first selection has never been their strong suit...
 
VYFan said:
From their college production, one would have thought there was a prospect among Colt McCoy, Johnny Manziel or Robert Griffin---now Baker Mayfield. Some of the best the State of Texas has put out recently.
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Put in a system that allowed him to just manage games instead of having to have top-shelf arm strength, Colt could have had more productivity. He ain't flashy at that level, but he got results when given an opportunity and a modicum of protection.

But...he ALSO didn't flame out...not much playing time, but the head still seems to be there and he was collecting the bucks even as a clipboard carrier. Long-time CC's have shown an ability to land in coaching spots as well...
 
Wow! The guy announcing the Philly draft pick just took a great shot at Dallas, and how none of the frat eligible player weren’t born the last time the Cowboys won a SB.
 
BevoJoe said:
Wow! The guy announcing the Philly draft pick just took a great shot at Dallas, and how none of the frat eligible player weren’t born the last time the Cowboys won a SB.
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Typical Philly fan... can't handle success with class, respect or dignity.

However, the Iggles do have some class , unfortuenately ALL of it is LOW!
 
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