Nebraska Booted From AAU

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Nebraska became the first university to be kicked out of the Association of American Universities (AAU):
The Link

What an embarassment for the Big Ten and, even more so, Nebraska.
 
what a shock. at least to the general public. apparently not a surprise to academicians at all. i read that the nebs have been on aau probation for years and they narrowly avoided expulsion in 2000.

reading this, it is all the more interesting that the big ten in all the realignment hubbub made such a big deal about aau membership being necessary for admission into their conference (except nd-special case). i assume the big ten schools were fully aware that nebraska was in danger of expulsion. indeed at least a couple of big ten schools voted to boot them. you would think in all the realignment talk that they would have tread lightly on that issue, knowing that this day might come.

there weren't many longhorn exes on these boards more staunchly supportive of our going to the big ten than i was. i still like that possibility for academic and research reasons, but a lot of the bloom has come off the bush for me in the ohio state revelations and now this. and if the big ten and ohio state try to sweep the liar's sins under the rug and go on as though nothing happened, then i don't see the big ten being that much more attractive than the pac-xx, depending on how we might fit in with the pac schools.
 
peri, all the big 12 aau schools voted to retain the nebs in the aau. not true of the big ten schools, however. and i read that wisconsin’s chancellor was on the membership review committee that recommended tossing them out.
 
Some of you think football has something to do with how those in the academic world make decisions, and you would be wrong. They don't care one iota about football.
This is an embarrassment for Nebraska, and I also wonder if the Big 10 schools would have accepted them had the process started this year. The Big 10 is proud of its members' AAU status.
Number of faculty on the tenured track was one of the AAU's main factors in rating schools, per the article. I just hope our esteemed governor's attack on tenured faculty in the State of Texas does not result in a similar announcement by the AAU about UT in the future.
 
The AAU is an elitist self promoting organization. However, belonging to it is "part of the game" for big institutions.

That said, it is refreshing to see an organization stand up for it's rules and dismiss a non-conforming member. The NCAA should ask the AAU for some governance tips.
 
As accurate said, we should all be concerned abt what Perry and the group of bootpolishers he has appointed to the Board of Regents are trying to do to The University.

AA-S article

Fortunately (for now), the BoR bowed to pressure from a number of big cigars and fired Perry's boy Rick O'Donnell, a hatchetman from the Texas Public Policy Foundation whose vision of UT would probably have put it in the same position as UNL now finds itself.

"Research? We dun need no stinkin' research!"
 
interesting discussion underway on frank the tank's place.

some may remember frank the tank from all the realignment talk not long ago. it was a blog he wrote that ignited the country to the possibility of texas going to the big ten. frank the tank's slant is still a very good place to visit as he has a fairly broad spectrum of reasonably knowledgeable posters from around the country chatting there. as so often happens, after one of his blogs, the discussion devolves into whatever is interesting at the moment and not necessarily in response to his recent blog.

frank is an illinois alum and the board is fairly big ten-centric in opinion, but there is so much there from outsiders and the participants are so interested in all things sports that it is a good place to drop in on from time to time.

couple of interesting quotes from that thread:

"Frankly this really sucks for everybody in the Big 10."

"As someone pointed out, the Big 10 actually has 12 votes with Chicago. So UNL only needed 3 votes outside of Big 12 and Big 10. It was clearly almost unanimous outside those groups. Pearlman ignored what Faulkner asked for and probably ticked everyone off. Instead he made “subtle” arguments and used a number of specific stories instead of hard data. He manipulated data by throwing in the medical school. He also tried to tell them their criteria were wrong in a ham handed way. No wonder even some of the Big 10 schools voted against him." [harvey perlman is chancellor at nebraska. apparently many think his dopey antics (sound familiar?) played a role in spurring this move.]

"While a lot of schools research are propped up by medical schools, Texas and Texas A&M are among those who don’t have medical schools. Texas Tech, however, does, and jealously guards it as part of its system while the other medical schools in the state are separate components of the UT system." [interesting in light of several there who complained the nebraska's medical school (not in lincoln) wasn't used to bolster their research portfolio.]

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yes, accuratehorn is, well, accurate. hard core academicians don't give a rat's rosy about the sports side of things. lots of big ten sports fanatics are furious with the big ten people who voted to oust the clowns.

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off the subject: if you haven't read this at frank's joint, you are going to want to: You Can't Always Get What You Want, Aggies.

edit: i just reread the quotes above and realized that the second quote, the way i nabbed it, makes it look like the writer was of the opinion that all the big ten schools HAD voted to retain nebraska in the aau. that is not the case. the discussion at this point was that if all the big ten and big 12 schools had voted to keep them, what more would have been needed. sorry for the wrong impression.
 
????

The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston Medical School
The University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston
The University of Texas Medical School at San Antonio
The University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
 
Isn't AM the premier Vet school in the country?

Glenn you are so misinformed it is not even funny. Go read Frank the Tank some more, we will wait for you at all those Big X games.
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Yep, nothing to say here except extremely embarrassing. I'll STFU now.
 
no, hnk. you're a good dude.

nebraska has a long and storied history. you guys just need to get it back on track. i hope you guys will put the pressure on the turkeys that have screwed that place up, and get it back to the nebraska that i always liked, not the goof-ball operation it has become.
 
Actually, Nebraska will do fine in the Big X if for only one reason, Team Speed. While they were not the fastest team in the Big XII, they will be in the Big X.

Now that the Texas Hate has left I can start to repair my respect for Nebraska. I think it will take a coach that I can at least respect like Solich. He wasn't bad but you could at least repect the guy. I don't think Pelini is bad but I have no respect for him. Never met the man but from what I have seen and read, no class.
 
doesn't have to be done in one year. besides, i think the flying pelinis are going to go over in the big ten almost as well as rich rod. don't get too chummy with them.

what you guys need to do, in my humble, is get rid of the doctor and his chief underlings and develop an organization that the michigans and such will have some respect for. then use your association with the cic to develop more respect in the academic community. that's what i was hoping we could get from that association. texas is respected but not like the stanfords of the nation. i was hoping we could use that arrangement to take another step or two. you guys can gain from it. do it.

i don't expect to see nebraska ever become the war horse it was in the 70s through 90s. the odds of packing together an advantage arrangement like you used to have is just not likely. that said, a good, sensible staff (including a new chancellor, perhaps) could go a long way toward building a respected organization in the big ten. that's what i'm hoping to see.

use this opportunity to make hay.
 
didn't realize there was a quandary. in fact, i didn't know what the question marks were all about.

for the record, i was quoting from the frank the tank thread, but the guy i quoted has it right and so does blonthang.

thanks for straightening that out, your blondness.
 
hnk, pelini had the advantage in the big 12 of having coached briefly for stoops.

the snyder/stoops branch of the hayden fry tree has really taken a hit the past several years with leach and mangino of the big 12 and jim leavitt of south florida getting pink slips (no, not that kind of pink slip), but this conference has been no stranger to pelini-types. the big ten may be a different environment altogether.

rich rod has said recently that going there was a mistake. the pelini family may be singing that sad song before long. i mean, the first time he pulls one of those '1 second' sob stories on one of those guys, that bunch is going to eat his liver with onions.

i'd give a nickel to know what the big ten is thinking these days of their decision to bring in nebraska. i've asked over on the frank board, and all the responses have been stiff upper lip stuff. i have to wonder, though, if under-the-breath conversations haven't taken place.

for that matter, i was reading the other day that the networks aren't planning to pay the pac conference anything more in light of their two more mouths to feed. the comment was that neither colorado nor utah adds anything beyond what was already there.

i think most assume that the pac boys would never have offered colorado alone except as a reaction to texas politicians making noise to replace colorado with baylor when everybody thought the big change-up was going to happen.

it's entirely possible that both conferences that took big 12 teams are having serious second thoughts. not good if so.
 
i was curious just what schools are aau members, and the site lists members and the year of admittance. apparently it was begun in 1900 with an original membership of 12 schools.

interesting to note when schools became members. some are surprisingly recent. i saw mention that the year stony brook gained entry that there was a serious glitch in a new, computerized system and a couple of schools were admitted accidentally, but the present leadership apparently isn't willing to admit the error publicly. : )

anyway, here is the full membership by date of admittance:

1900
Columbia University
Cornell University
Harvard University
The Johns Hopkins University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of California, Berkeley
The University of Chicago
University of Michigan
University of Pennsylvania
The University of Wisconsin-Madison
Yale University

1904
University of Virginia

1908
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
University of Missouri-Columbia

1909
Indiana University
The University of Iowa
The University of Kansas

1916
The Ohio State University

1917
Northwestern University

1922
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

1923
Washington University in St. Louis

1926
McGill University
University of Toronto

1929
The University of Texas at Austin

1933
Brown University

1934
California Institute of Technology
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

1938
Duke University

1941
University of Rochester

1950
New York University
University of Washington
Vanderbilt University

1958
Iowa State University
The Pennsylvania State University
Purdue University
Tulane University

1964
Michigan State University

1966
Syracuse University
University of Colorado at Boulder

1969
Case Western Reserve University
University of Maryland, College Park
University of Oregon
University of Southern California

1974
University of California, Los Angeles
University of Pittsburgh

1982
Carnegie Mellon University
University of California, San Diego

1985
Brandeis University
Rice University
The University of Arizona
University of Florida

1989
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
University at Buffalo, The State University of New York

1995
Emory University
University of California, Santa Barbara

1996
University of California, Davis
University of California, Irvine

2001
Stony Brook University-State University of New York
Texas A&M University

2010
Georgia Institute of Technology
 
i thought 'quandary' was a good word to use. hadn't noticed there was a snoozing 'a'.

just looked up 'flummoxation' and 'flummoxedness' but no dice. maybe 'dumbfoundary'? dunno. let's ask nebraska. they should know a good word for that state.
 
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