My brother got a second DWI last night.

Bookman,

I don't think there is anything you can say to make him stop. He had to decide to himself.
 
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Whack him upside the head with one of these maybe?

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Seriously, I agree with another poster: he has to want to change on his own. He needs to understand that there will eventually be jail time coming if he keeps it up with the DWIs.
 
The penalties are a lot stiffer than they used to be. I think the 3rd is jail time? That ought to sober someone up.

Were his DWIs just months apart?
 
Tell him if he's going to drink and drive, make sure he obeys all traffic laws. Don't give the cops probable cause to pull him over.

DWI laws, while well intentioned, have gotten completely out of control. It's too easy to break the law. The penalty is the same whether the driver is 0.081% or 0.33% BAC. This makes NO sense. They don't give the same fine for 56 MPH and 156 MPH do they?

Bernard
 
I don't know the diffrence between DUI and DWI penalty wise, but I'm sure the BAC limits are diffrent. If in fact it was two DWI offences then I would do everything possible to get him the help he needs. I have a cousin that was very successful, a great husband and father, but he was enjoying his success a llittle to much a couple of times and just so happen to get caught. This guy probably drank a couple of times a year! Anyway, he is paying severely at this time. I really feel that he may have learned his lesson after all the wasted money and shame he's brought on his family. I hope the best for your brother in the sense that maybe this was the wake-up call for him.
 
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DUI = Any detectable alcohol where the suspect is a minor
DWI - for grown ups, and it requires .08, or loss of normal use of faculties.
 
was he still on probation from his first?
How long ago was the first one? He could do something like 30 days for a second right off the bat.
If he gets a 3rd it's a felony, and he loses a lot more than just the money this time.
 
No, he had just gotten off probation.

I'm so ******* mad at him right now. I hope he's able to exorcise whatever demons he has.
 
The problem for your brother is that he just ******* got off probation, so clearly probation was not a deterrent.

.08 is honestly too low when you compare to the number of folks on antihistimines, sleep deprived, putting on makeup, talking ont he cell phone, etc. However it's the law. I think the average person with a decent tolerance could drive over and over and over with a blood alcohol level of .08, .10 or even potentially slightly higher without any impairment beyond the above mentioned crimeless cases.

However the law is the law and that's the rub, and if you have one DWI you simply can't gamble on getting another.

I also agree that it's clear that a person blowing .25 is a substantial danger to the citizenry. They guy barely touching .10... I am not so sure...
 
I don't think you should bash on your brother too hard. Until the US decides to have affordable public transportation that operates 24/7 there will be a few "over the limit" incidents.

I certainly do not condone getting hammered and getting behind the wheel, but the laws in this country in regards to DWI are a bit unrealistic.
 
My brother has 2 DWI's and I hope he has learned his lesson but again, just like your brother, he has to want to change.

I think you have to do jail time with the second time...my brother did...like weekend jail or whatever...

My brother absolutely does NOT drive intoxicated now...not even one beer....so I hope your brother pulls his head outta his *** and gets with the program.
 
was he drunk or did he just get pulled over with alcohol on his breath?
 
Tell him to move to NYC or Chicago where he doesn't have to drive. If he can't trust himself not to drive intoxicated, he shouldn't drive, for his own sake much less for the safety of others on the road. A 3rd DWI could very possibly mean a couple years in a TDC facility. That means being raped. Frequently. That would scare me to either stop drinking or stop driving, one or the other.
 
It is good to hear that a few of you know people who got that first or second one and realized they needed to stop.

My brother did not. He spent six mos. in county after another alcohol related felony. The threat of a return to jail/prison was not a deterrent.

He soon got his third DWI. He ended up in TDC, where he is now. He is sheduled for release soon.

I am asking myself the same question you are. What is it going to take him to stop? I agree with most of the others who've responded--he (your brother and mine) is going to have to make that decision himself. I've decided the only thing I can do is let him know I love him but that I won't enable him.

Let's hope 1+ year in the state pen will influence my brother to stop, and let's hope whatever consequences come to your brother will prompt him to quit as well.
 
Is he really an alcoholic, or does he just use poor judgment after too much partying? Some kind of intervention may work, but is difficult-would the rest of the family back you? How about a family meeting?
Either way, sounds like he will face a felony next time, and if he refuses to change, he will likely go to jail. Maybe the keys should be taken from him by the family-probably not possible, I know.
 
I know this might be overkill, but look into whether you can get a device installed on his car that requires him to do a breathalyzer before the car can start. At least that will keep him from driving if he's had too much to drink. Unless he steals a car or cons someone into letting him drive their car. Here's a link to such a device:
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Good luck.
 
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