Master Cleanser diet
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SizzleChest
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Horn Chick
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My roommate is doing this exact “diet” and told me a bit about its purpose. Apparently any grown human has as much as 5 pounds of undigested red meat in their digestive system. By not eating for a week or so, you force your body to breakdown this material, hence the laxative drink at night. It’s grouse, but even though you’re not eating anything, you still have to sit on the toilet everyday to….anyways. Apparently when you’ve completed the “diet” you really do feel cleansed – healthy and clean insides.
In my opinion it’s never healthy to lose that much weight so quickly…2-3 pounds a day. My friend has lost about 15 pounds in a week. I’m with the rest of the board; eat healthy and exercise. People say they do it to cleanse when in reality it's to lose a **** load of weight quickly and help change their eating habits.
If I didn’t eat for a few days I would be in the worst mood imaginable, I couldn’t go to work.
In my opinion it’s never healthy to lose that much weight so quickly…2-3 pounds a day. My friend has lost about 15 pounds in a week. I’m with the rest of the board; eat healthy and exercise. People say they do it to cleanse when in reality it's to lose a **** load of weight quickly and help change their eating habits.
If I didn’t eat for a few days I would be in the worst mood imaginable, I couldn’t go to work.
FIRST of all...
MORE THAN LIKELY, most of the people here have never tried it, but for the ones that are suggesting exercise, sweat-it-out, etc... you're obviously right. BUT, this master cleanser DOES work, and is very beneficial.
Mostly, you do just lose water-weight and excess "junk" weight. I lost 14 pounds in 3 days, but felt no thinner or weaker (yes, I had a LOT of water weight). I took the salt water laxative drinks as well. This definatley made me feel not-bloated (by the way, I had no idea I was bloated before, until after I 'cleansed' myself). You don't have to take any pills or supplements so you really know that it is 'all-natural'. The ingredients are very easy to find... the all natural maple syrup can be found Whole Foods/Central Market/Wheatsville etc... I swear to you this really helps. The idea is to get cleansed so that you can start eating healthy. This is NOT a pure weight-loss diet.
WITH THAT BEING SAID.... GOOD FREAKIN LUCK!!! Not eating real food is so hard. I was trying to do the 30 day cycle, but to no avail. Even in one week, though, I felt much better.
MORE THAN LIKELY, most of the people here have never tried it, but for the ones that are suggesting exercise, sweat-it-out, etc... you're obviously right. BUT, this master cleanser DOES work, and is very beneficial.
Mostly, you do just lose water-weight and excess "junk" weight. I lost 14 pounds in 3 days, but felt no thinner or weaker (yes, I had a LOT of water weight). I took the salt water laxative drinks as well. This definatley made me feel not-bloated (by the way, I had no idea I was bloated before, until after I 'cleansed' myself). You don't have to take any pills or supplements so you really know that it is 'all-natural'. The ingredients are very easy to find... the all natural maple syrup can be found Whole Foods/Central Market/Wheatsville etc... I swear to you this really helps. The idea is to get cleansed so that you can start eating healthy. This is NOT a pure weight-loss diet.
WITH THAT BEING SAID.... GOOD FREAKIN LUCK!!! Not eating real food is so hard. I was trying to do the 30 day cycle, but to no avail. Even in one week, though, I felt much better.
MulletsGalore
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From Swedish Med Center here in Seattle:
Colon cleansing: don't be misled by the claims
by Larry Lindner
"Colon cleansers effectively eliminate large quantities of toxic waste, affecting the condition and vitality of the entire body."
"Colonics...increase the release of old, encrusted colon waste, encourage discharge of toxins and parasites, freshen the gastrointestinal tract and make the whole cleansing process easier and more thorough."
"Cleansing is the first step in a good weight control program."
So read ads and promotional materials for so-called internal cleansers—enemas, laxatives, strong herbal teas, powders, and pills meant to clean out the large intestine, also known as the colon or bowel.
The sellers of all these colon scrubbers say periodic cleansing is crucial for the body's well-being. The general pitch goes as follows. We live in an age in which toxins easily accumulate in the body—the air we breathe is polluted and the food we eat is laden with pesticides and other harmful chemicals. Our bodies, unequipped to deal with all these poisons, fall behind in eliminating them, and we end up sick.
Furthermore, as one company puts it, certain foods "tend to stick and putrefy in the folds and pockets of the intestines. When your colon isn't eliminating wastes properly, toxins are reabsorbed into the blood, poisoning the entire system and weakening your other eliminative organs." More succinctly stated, "the colon walls are encrusted with stagnant waste."
Don't believe it, say the experts.
"Things don't crust over" in your colon, says Robert Russell, MD, a gastroenterologist at the Jean Mayer Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University in Boston. "The business about putrefaction is all baloney. There are not pieces of food hanging around in there getting old."
In other words, you don't need a $20-to-$30 product to help nature do its job. The body is perfectly capable of eliminating toxins in a timely, efficient manner. Consider that the cells of your gastrointestinal tract turn over every three days—fast enough so that there's no "crust," or "putrefying" food in your colon. Also, bacteria in the colon naturally metabolize and thereby detoxify food wastes. And mucous membranes lining the intestinal wall block unwanted substances from entering the body's other tissues. The liver works to neutralize toxins as well.
Granted, Dr. Russell says, people do get constipated. "And that makes you uncomfortable," he points out. "But there has never been any indication that there's a higher incidence of colon cancer or any other dreaded disease in constipated people."
In typical quack-like fashion, sellers of intestinal cleansers make consumers their own diagnosticians and tell them signs to look for to determine that their bodies are not up to snuff and need outside agents to, er, get things going. One of these signs is having fewer than two to three bowel movements a day. But that has nothing to do with whether you require a laxative or other cathartic agent. The number of bowel movements considered healthy over a given period of time differs from person to person. It can be anywhere from a few times a day to a few times a week, Dr. Russell notes. Only when your typical pattern changes might something be wrong, and even then it's often just a passing virus or other bug.
Some companies imply that increasing the number of bowel movements will prevent absorption of enough calories to allow you to shed excess pounds, but that, too, is not true. Just about all calories are absorbed well before food makes its way to the colon, rendering any weight-loss claims for cleansers bogus.
Most symptoms of an "inefficient" colon listed by purveyors of internal cleansers are actually much more vague than the one that requires bowel movement counts. In fact, they're vague enough and broad enough to cover virtually every single human being, at least at one time or another.
One company, for instance, says the signals that toxins are building up in your system are that "you may feel sluggish or bloated or you may experience 'brain fog.' You may wake up feeling tired and 'blue.' You may have a case of the 'blahs' that's hard to shake." Among the "13 common symptoms of toxicity" listed by another company: headaches, depression, poor memory, low energy, weight gain, and—I kid you not—"illnesses."
Just as the symptoms of a supposedly poisoned digestive system are, on the whole, vague, so, too are the signs of renewed well-being once a cleanser is taken. "With your body free of harmful toxins, you will feel younger, better, healthier, and happier!" one company says. Another promises that "when the colon is kept clean, disease in the body is very rare." Still other companies make claims of improved mental alertness and increased energy.
They tell you not to worry if taking the cleanser makes you feel sick because that's a sign that the product is working. According to one pamphlet, gas and other gastrointestinal discomfort along with flu-like symptoms such as sneezing and a runny nose are "temporary, positive signs that you body is working to rid itself of the toxin build-up." Literature for another product says, "Do not be alarmed if you pass strings of mucus...for a couple of weeks as this is a good sign that you are detoxifying." Promotional material for yet another tells patrons to "just relax and appreciate your body's cleansing process if you develop any of the following; headaches, bad breath or body odor, dizziness, irritability, skin eruptions...or low energy."
But do not relax. Dizziness could be a sign that you're becoming dehydrated. And strings of mucus—the intestine's response to stimulation—mean the body views the cleanser as a toxin and is trying to get rid of it.
The idea of having to feel worse before you feel better is particularly dangerous in light of the fact that feeling bad is very possibly a sign that a cleanser is disagreeing with you in a serious way. Consider a U.S. Food and Drug Administration report that linked kidney problems and progressive muscle weakness to a cleansing formula that contained herbs and fiber. In another FDA report, a body cleanser that contained clay, cascara, and comfrey was associated with diarrhea, abdominal pain, and vomiting up blood. A woman even ended up in the emergency room with life-threatening heart problems after ingesting an herbal cleansing regimen with tainted ingredients. (Unlike drugs, cleansers do not have to meet standards for quality and purity.)
Traditional advice still the best. Here's a better bet than going through extraordinary means to "flush" your colon:
Drink plenty of fluids.
Eat plenty of high-fiber fruits, vegetables, beans, and whole grains.
Get plenty of exercise.
Let nature take its course. Your colon knows how to do its business.
Colon cleansing: don't be misled by the claims
by Larry Lindner
"Colon cleansers effectively eliminate large quantities of toxic waste, affecting the condition and vitality of the entire body."
"Colonics...increase the release of old, encrusted colon waste, encourage discharge of toxins and parasites, freshen the gastrointestinal tract and make the whole cleansing process easier and more thorough."
"Cleansing is the first step in a good weight control program."
So read ads and promotional materials for so-called internal cleansers—enemas, laxatives, strong herbal teas, powders, and pills meant to clean out the large intestine, also known as the colon or bowel.
The sellers of all these colon scrubbers say periodic cleansing is crucial for the body's well-being. The general pitch goes as follows. We live in an age in which toxins easily accumulate in the body—the air we breathe is polluted and the food we eat is laden with pesticides and other harmful chemicals. Our bodies, unequipped to deal with all these poisons, fall behind in eliminating them, and we end up sick.
Furthermore, as one company puts it, certain foods "tend to stick and putrefy in the folds and pockets of the intestines. When your colon isn't eliminating wastes properly, toxins are reabsorbed into the blood, poisoning the entire system and weakening your other eliminative organs." More succinctly stated, "the colon walls are encrusted with stagnant waste."
Don't believe it, say the experts.
"Things don't crust over" in your colon, says Robert Russell, MD, a gastroenterologist at the Jean Mayer Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University in Boston. "The business about putrefaction is all baloney. There are not pieces of food hanging around in there getting old."
In other words, you don't need a $20-to-$30 product to help nature do its job. The body is perfectly capable of eliminating toxins in a timely, efficient manner. Consider that the cells of your gastrointestinal tract turn over every three days—fast enough so that there's no "crust," or "putrefying" food in your colon. Also, bacteria in the colon naturally metabolize and thereby detoxify food wastes. And mucous membranes lining the intestinal wall block unwanted substances from entering the body's other tissues. The liver works to neutralize toxins as well.
Granted, Dr. Russell says, people do get constipated. "And that makes you uncomfortable," he points out. "But there has never been any indication that there's a higher incidence of colon cancer or any other dreaded disease in constipated people."
In typical quack-like fashion, sellers of intestinal cleansers make consumers their own diagnosticians and tell them signs to look for to determine that their bodies are not up to snuff and need outside agents to, er, get things going. One of these signs is having fewer than two to three bowel movements a day. But that has nothing to do with whether you require a laxative or other cathartic agent. The number of bowel movements considered healthy over a given period of time differs from person to person. It can be anywhere from a few times a day to a few times a week, Dr. Russell notes. Only when your typical pattern changes might something be wrong, and even then it's often just a passing virus or other bug.
Some companies imply that increasing the number of bowel movements will prevent absorption of enough calories to allow you to shed excess pounds, but that, too, is not true. Just about all calories are absorbed well before food makes its way to the colon, rendering any weight-loss claims for cleansers bogus.
Most symptoms of an "inefficient" colon listed by purveyors of internal cleansers are actually much more vague than the one that requires bowel movement counts. In fact, they're vague enough and broad enough to cover virtually every single human being, at least at one time or another.
One company, for instance, says the signals that toxins are building up in your system are that "you may feel sluggish or bloated or you may experience 'brain fog.' You may wake up feeling tired and 'blue.' You may have a case of the 'blahs' that's hard to shake." Among the "13 common symptoms of toxicity" listed by another company: headaches, depression, poor memory, low energy, weight gain, and—I kid you not—"illnesses."
Just as the symptoms of a supposedly poisoned digestive system are, on the whole, vague, so, too are the signs of renewed well-being once a cleanser is taken. "With your body free of harmful toxins, you will feel younger, better, healthier, and happier!" one company says. Another promises that "when the colon is kept clean, disease in the body is very rare." Still other companies make claims of improved mental alertness and increased energy.
They tell you not to worry if taking the cleanser makes you feel sick because that's a sign that the product is working. According to one pamphlet, gas and other gastrointestinal discomfort along with flu-like symptoms such as sneezing and a runny nose are "temporary, positive signs that you body is working to rid itself of the toxin build-up." Literature for another product says, "Do not be alarmed if you pass strings of mucus...for a couple of weeks as this is a good sign that you are detoxifying." Promotional material for yet another tells patrons to "just relax and appreciate your body's cleansing process if you develop any of the following; headaches, bad breath or body odor, dizziness, irritability, skin eruptions...or low energy."
But do not relax. Dizziness could be a sign that you're becoming dehydrated. And strings of mucus—the intestine's response to stimulation—mean the body views the cleanser as a toxin and is trying to get rid of it.
The idea of having to feel worse before you feel better is particularly dangerous in light of the fact that feeling bad is very possibly a sign that a cleanser is disagreeing with you in a serious way. Consider a U.S. Food and Drug Administration report that linked kidney problems and progressive muscle weakness to a cleansing formula that contained herbs and fiber. In another FDA report, a body cleanser that contained clay, cascara, and comfrey was associated with diarrhea, abdominal pain, and vomiting up blood. A woman even ended up in the emergency room with life-threatening heart problems after ingesting an herbal cleansing regimen with tainted ingredients. (Unlike drugs, cleansers do not have to meet standards for quality and purity.)
Traditional advice still the best. Here's a better bet than going through extraordinary means to "flush" your colon:
Drink plenty of fluids.
Eat plenty of high-fiber fruits, vegetables, beans, and whole grains.
Get plenty of exercise.
Let nature take its course. Your colon knows how to do its business.
Thank God for the article MulletsGalore just cited.
Here's a simpler test for all you "crusted colon" wackos. Eat a big assed steak along with several fresh, HOT serranos or jalapenos, seeds and all. Hell, eat a habanero with your meat if you're so inclined. Then time how long it takes for your ******* to turn into the "ring of fire" as you eliminate the meal. That will give you a rough idea of how long ANY food you ingest stays in your system before being crapped out. It'll differ for everybody, but in my case I'm screaming "Come on, ice cream!" the next day without fail.
Here's a simpler test for all you "crusted colon" wackos. Eat a big assed steak along with several fresh, HOT serranos or jalapenos, seeds and all. Hell, eat a habanero with your meat if you're so inclined. Then time how long it takes for your ******* to turn into the "ring of fire" as you eliminate the meal. That will give you a rough idea of how long ANY food you ingest stays in your system before being crapped out. It'll differ for everybody, but in my case I'm screaming "Come on, ice cream!" the next day without fail.
Horn Chick
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Longhorn Al
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Where did I see that about some people getting a tar-like substance throughout their intestines? They cited stuff about how much it weighs, how removing it makes you healthier, and compared older people with it vs. children.
Could've been a news show on health, or an infomercial.
Could've been a news show on health, or an infomercial.
DeadHeadHorn
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DeadHeadHorn
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The reason for the maple syrup is that it is an unprocessed sugar that contains lots of minerals. The idea is that between that and the lemon/lime juice, you're getting most of the required daily nutrients your body needs.
PacSER
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I see no point in arguing against the logistics of this diet b/c you seem set on doing it. Good luck.
However, I will argue the idea of drinking that mixture, and only that mixture, for any amount of time. Why the hell would you want to do it? That is just disgusting. Lemon juice, maple, and cayenne? WTF? Sour, sweet, and pepper? It sounds like some sort of Mexican salt. You aren't going to eat solids for 10 days? Why in the hell not? There is no reason to subject yourself to that sort of diet. Mind over matter? No thanks.
If cleansing your colon was so important, don't you think more people would do it? More doctors would tell you about it?
Have they done extensive studies to show a person has "lost" toxins after they have completed this diet? Have they proven they are healthier afterwards?
My guess is they have not. So again, why subject yourself to such crap for a "myth"? Everything is a "myth" until proven. Don't you like real food?
Losing water weight only pushes your body closer to dehydration.
How about your cardiovascular health during this time? One problem with extremes such as this is that they always have an adverse affect on something else. Can you do any physical activity with your usual intensity? Personally, I don't see how when your body has nothing to use for energy except for breaking down your muscle tissue. That is hardly efficient use of your body composition. Your body will go into shutdown mode. It will conserve fat and use muscle for energy.
Man.
Good luck. I think all signs point AWAY from this.
However, I will argue the idea of drinking that mixture, and only that mixture, for any amount of time. Why the hell would you want to do it? That is just disgusting. Lemon juice, maple, and cayenne? WTF? Sour, sweet, and pepper? It sounds like some sort of Mexican salt. You aren't going to eat solids for 10 days? Why in the hell not? There is no reason to subject yourself to that sort of diet. Mind over matter? No thanks.
If cleansing your colon was so important, don't you think more people would do it? More doctors would tell you about it?
Have they done extensive studies to show a person has "lost" toxins after they have completed this diet? Have they proven they are healthier afterwards?
My guess is they have not. So again, why subject yourself to such crap for a "myth"? Everything is a "myth" until proven. Don't you like real food?
Losing water weight only pushes your body closer to dehydration.
How about your cardiovascular health during this time? One problem with extremes such as this is that they always have an adverse affect on something else. Can you do any physical activity with your usual intensity? Personally, I don't see how when your body has nothing to use for energy except for breaking down your muscle tissue. That is hardly efficient use of your body composition. Your body will go into shutdown mode. It will conserve fat and use muscle for energy.
Man.
Mack Tripper
500+ Posts
So how did this thing go?
DeadHeadHorn
500+ Posts
Well, I started last Sunday and decided to stop yesterday, Friday, day 6.
I know a lot of people who've done this and they all had various results. Most said that by day four, they weren't hungry and felt really good. I felt weak and I think I got a fever. I decided to go a bit more, but by yesterday I wasn't feeling any better, and to be honest, the "lemonade" got to be disgusting.
I didn't feel like any toxins were really leaving my body and I don't think it was doing me any good. Some of the things posted by people here did have me a little worried and that's why I stopped.
One thing that is interesting is going back to food after six days of not eating anything. Your relationship to food is really put into perspective. It's such a huge social thing, and when you're at home you realize how much you eat simply because you're bored. Also, the first thing I ate was chips and salsa, and I couldn't eat more than a few chips because they tasted so salty.
You feel the way that food impacts you a lot more, which is also interesting.
I sorta wish I had finished the whole ten days but I think for me this diet was not doing much good. Other people swear by it and have had good results, but I just wasn't and felt it was best for me to end it.
I know a lot of people who've done this and they all had various results. Most said that by day four, they weren't hungry and felt really good. I felt weak and I think I got a fever. I decided to go a bit more, but by yesterday I wasn't feeling any better, and to be honest, the "lemonade" got to be disgusting.
I didn't feel like any toxins were really leaving my body and I don't think it was doing me any good. Some of the things posted by people here did have me a little worried and that's why I stopped.
One thing that is interesting is going back to food after six days of not eating anything. Your relationship to food is really put into perspective. It's such a huge social thing, and when you're at home you realize how much you eat simply because you're bored. Also, the first thing I ate was chips and salsa, and I couldn't eat more than a few chips because they tasted so salty.
You feel the way that food impacts you a lot more, which is also interesting.
I sorta wish I had finished the whole ten days but I think for me this diet was not doing much good. Other people swear by it and have had good results, but I just wasn't and felt it was best for me to end it.
dontlookatme
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Isaac Hayes, the bad mo fo that he is does this thing for 30 days every year. I saw him on some daily show a few years back pitching a cooking book of his. He wouldnt try any of the food he was cooking because he said he was on a diet of water, lemon juice, maple syrup, and cayenne pepper. The host kept trying to get him to take a bite and he got pretty pissed about it. Im sure it works great for some people and they swear by it. For others it may not be their cup of tea.
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