Major supposedly gets the boot

What Houston fails to understand is that anytime they get a 10 or 11 win coach that coach will eventually move on to a premier program. I haven't really felt Major would be a good head coach, but two years was awfully quick to fire him. If he could win 8 to 9 games a year with an occasional10 he could have been a good long term fit for the level of program they have. The problem is they think they are more relevant than they really are.
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
What Houston fails to understand is that anytime they get a 10 or 11 win coach that coach will eventually move on to a premier program. I haven't really felt Major would be a good head coach, but two years was awfully quick to fire him. If he could win 8 to 9 games a year with an occasional10 he could have been a good long term fit for the level of program they have. The problem is they think they are more relevant than they really are.
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Maybe the real problem is that Fertitta is the new Jerry Jones and Major didn't kiss *** enough.
 
Major Applewhite's job limbo reveals administrative clown show at Houston

From the link:

"Holgorsen is a good coach, as he’s shown at West Virginia. Here’s to hoping at his introductory presser, Khator [Renu Khator, UH's president] dusts off her notes from the night she hired Applewhite and doubles down on the most baffling line from a collegiate administrator in the past few years. “Winning is defined at University of Houston as 10-2,” according to the Houston Chronicle. “We’ll fire coaches at 8-4.”

That chestnut was greeted with mockery among her peers. And it should make Holgorsen sweat, as six of his eight seasons at WVU were 8-4 or below."

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If prez. Renu Khator (wasn't she a character in an early TV episode of Star Trek?) holds to her chest pumping, she will doom UH to ever latching on to a coach growing his legacy. She will be firing the likes of Knute Rockne, Bear Bryant, and Nick Saban, who all had sub .666 (8-4) years at their schools, ND, UK, Bama, where they then won NCs. Not only that, both Rockne and Bryant won NCs, then slumped below 8-4, then won more NCs:

Rockne 1924 10-0: NC,
1928 5-4 (fired?, uh, no),
1929 9-0: NC, 1930 10-0: NC

Bryant 1961 11–0: NC, 1964 10–1: NC, 1965: 9–1–1 NC,
1969 6–5, 1970 6–5–1 (fired?, no),
1973 11–1: NC, 1978 11–1: NC, 1979 12–0: NC

Nick Saban 2002 LSU 8–5 (below 8-4), then 2003 LSU 13–1 NC; later he started Bama 2007 at 7-6 (officially 2-6 due to NCAA tossing out games due to predecessor violations)

Knute Rockne
1918 Notre Dame 3–1–2
1919 Notre Dame 9–0
1920 Notre Dame 9–0
1921 Notre Dame 10–1
1922 Notre Dame 8–1–1
1923 Notre Dame 9–1
1924 Notre Dame 10–0 NC
1925 Notre Dame 7–2–1
1926 Notre Dame 9–1
1927 Notre Dame 7–1–1
1928 Notre Dame 5–4
1929 Notre Dame 9–0 NC
1930 Notre Dame 10–0 NC

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Bear Bryant

1945 Maryland 6–2–1 3–2 5th

Kentucky Wildcats (Southeastern Conference) (1946–1953)
1946 Kentucky 7–3
1947 Kentucky 8–3
1948 Kentucky 5–3–2
1949 Kentucky 9–3
1950 Kentucky 11–1 NC
1951 Kentucky 8–4
1952 Kentucky 5–4–2
1953 Kentucky 7–2–1

Texas A&M Aggies (Southwest Conference) (1954–1957)
1954 Texas A&M 1–9
1955 Texas A&M 7–2–1
1956 Texas A&M 9–0–1
1957 Texas A&M 8–3

Alabama Crimson Tide (Southeastern Conference) (1958–1982)
1958 Alabama 5–4–1
1959 Alabama 7–2–2
1960 Alabama 8–1–2
1961 Alabama 11–0 NC
1962 Alabama 10–1
1963 Alabama 9–2
1964 Alabama 10–1 NC
1965 Alabama 9–1–1 NC
1966 Alabama 11–0
1967 Alabama 8–2–1
1968 Alabama 8–3
1969 Alabama 6–5
1970 Alabama 6–5–1
1971 Alabama 11–1
1972 Alabama 10–2
1973 Alabama 11–1 NC
1974 Alabama 11–1
1975 Alabama 11–1
1976 Alabama 9–3
1977 Alabama 11–1
1978 Alabama 11–1 NC
1979 Alabama 12–0 NC
1980 Alabama 10–2
1981 Alabama 9–2–1
1982 Alabama 8–4


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Nick Saban

1990 Toledo 9–2

Michigan State Spartans (Big Ten Conference) (1995–1999)
1995 Michigan State 6–5–1
1996 Michigan State 6–6
1997 Michigan State 7–5
1998 Michigan State 6–6
1999 Michigan State 9–2

LSU Tigers (Southeastern Conference) (2000–2004)
2000 LSU 8–4
2001 LSU 10–3
2002 LSU 8–5
2003 LSU 13–1 NC
2004 LSU 9–3

Alabama Crimson Tide (Southeastern Conference) (2007–present)
2007 Alabama 2–6
2008 Alabama 12–2
2009 Alabama 14–0 NC
2010 Alabama 10–3
2011 Alabama 12–1 NC
2012 Alabama 13–1 NC
2013 Alabama 11–2
2014 Alabama 12–2
2015 Alabama 14–1 NC
2016 Alabama 14–1
2017 Alabama 13–1 NC
2018 Alabama 14–0 in title game

Edit P.S.: Meant no slight to our own DKR, who's first year at UT, 1957, went .65 (below 8-4's .666) and wasn't fired. Won NC in 1963. Then slumped in 1965 to 1967, going 6-4, 7-4, 6-4 (all below UH's 8-4 firing line of .666), then won NC in 1969 and 1/2 NC in 1970.

1956 Washington 5–5

Texas Longhorns (Southwest Conference) (1957–1976)
1957 Texas 6–4–1
1958 Texas 7–3
1959 Texas 9–2
1960 Texas 7–3–1
1961 Texas 10–1
1962 Texas 9–1–1
1963 Texas 11–0
1964 Texas 10–1
1965 Texas 6–4
1966 Texas 7–4
1967 Texas 6–4
1968 Texas 9–1–1
1969 Texas 11–0
1970 Texas 10–1
1971 Texas 8–3
1972 Texas 10–1
1973 Texas 8–3
1974 Texas 8–4
1975 Texas 10–2
1976 Texas 5–5–1
 
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What exactly would be the point of firing Major Applewhite and hiring Kliff Kingsbury? That seems like a really expensive way to get the exact same thing. I am not sure Holgy does any better than those two either.
 
Htown77 said:
What exactly would be the point of firing Major Applewhite and hiring Kliff Kingsbury? That seems like a really expensive way to get the exact same thing. I am not sure Holgy does any better than those two either.
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None at all. For some reason Holgerson has been mentioned before. Apparently he's looking to get out of WV.
 
Awfully short leash for a coach with a winning record at a mediocre program. Imagine the s-storm Texas would have created if we fired Charlie with the same record in two years. UT would be a cesspool, inside of a swamp, in the middle of a hell hole.

- Mike
 
Mike the Texan said:
Awfully short leash for a coach with a winning record at a mediocre program. Imagine the s-storm Texas would have created if we fired Charlie with the same record in two years. UT would be a cesspool, inside of a swamp, in the middle of a hell hole.

- Mike
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There also would have been charges of racism.
 
well actually You did make it clear.
I just kinda didn't read it right in my indignation to think Major would be called racist.
MY bad.
 
Horn6721 said:
well actually You did make it clear.
I just kinda didn't read it right in my indignation to think Major would be called racist.
MY bad.
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No problem. I was just saying the climate in this day and age is such that the university would have been attacked for having a quick trigger finger. They gave him his chance; but you know what happened: Kansas.
 
Wow. KK gets fired after making a mediocre college team more mediocre, he is being interviewed for the NFL? NFL will mean "Not For Long" if that were to happen.
 
The U of H administration has big plans based on delusions of grandeur. Houston is full of Aggies suffering from the same thing.....must be in the water. Major was probably as good as they can expect if they want a long term, stable program.

To get to the big time they will need to overcome an image that was best described by a Dallas city councilman when it appeared that Houston would win their first SW Conference championship and come to the Cotton Bowl. He said that would not be good for the Dallas economy because “half of their fans would eat at the 7-11 and the other half would rob it”.

On the other hand OU and Miami got there with similar images. And Barry is real concerned with Houston getting into the B12 because he thinks some of those outlaws from the Houston area belong to OU.

I for one had hoped Major would do well and Houston could get into the B12. I don’t want them now......we just got rid of a paranoid group a bit NW of Houston.
 
Badass said:
Wow.

“According to Godfrey, West Virginia head coach Dana Holgorsen is among those the Cougars have on their early shortlist.”

Dana would be crazy to take the UH job.
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Couches are cheaper in Houston since the fanbase tends not to keep burning them...
 
If true, smart move by Kingsbury. While I already asked “what is the point of firing Applewhite for Kingsbury or Holgy?”, I also ask “if you are Kingsbury (or Holgy unless he just REALLY wants out of Weat Virginia), why would you want a job where two winning seasons after two years gets you fired? Why would anyone want to go somewhere where the expectations are completely unrealistic aka 11+ wins in the first two years or else you get the boot?”

U of H really is aggy lite.
 
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