Luigi Mangione --- poor lad is being mistreated in jail

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Chop - if the trial ends in a hung jury, no sane business person would ever set foot in NYC again.
 
It appears most of his supporters are younger Genx
If the jury isn't weighted with them or too many pple who have been screwed by Big Ins he should be in prison a long time.
 
Horn6721 said:
or too many pple who have been screwed by Big Ins
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Yeah. But that's really an awful lot of people...

I suggest folks hit them hard in the courts for big $$$ judgments instead of murdering CEOs, but I think most of us understand the reality that you're unlikely to prevail against big insurers in court--even when the facts are in your favor. If nothing else, the fine print on your insurance contract may throw you into arbitration where you might get a pittance of the real value of your claim.

The legal system needs to fix itself. If people can't get justice lawfully, they'll go vigilante.
 
Chop said:
Yeah. But that's really an awful lot of people...

I suggest folks hit them hard in the courts for big $$$ judgments instead of murdering CEOs, but I think most of us understand the reality that you're unlikely to prevail against big insurers in court--even when the facts are in your favor. If nothing else, the fine print on your insurance contract may throw you into arbitration where you might get a pittance of the real value of your claim.

The legal system needs to fix itself. If people can't get justice lawfully, they'll go vigilante.
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And the age-old right wing creed of "Plaintiff's lawyers are bad" needs to die an uninsured death. People need to be able to get what's due them lawfully in the courts, or some will go outside the law to get their justice.
 
Chop said:
And the age-old right wing creed of "Plaintiff's lawyers are bad" needs to die an uninsured death. People need to be able to get what's due them lawfully in the courts, or some will go outside the law to get their justice.
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If you're going to be a victim of medical malpractice which causes you life-ruining damage--make sure it doesn't happen in Texas...
 
Monahorns said:
So you're against inequality.

Grievances against inequality spurred the Bolshevik revolution.

Either it is okay for people to be different or it isn't. Trying to control the amount just means you are against it.
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Right: Either it's ok with you for the top 5% to have 95% and make economic sefs of the rest or you are a Bolshevik. Makes sense if you hate to think seriously about inequality.
 
Crockett said:
Right: Either it's ok with you for the top 5% to have 95% and make economic sefs of the rest or you are a Bolshevik. Makes sense if you hate to think seriously about inequality.
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Yep. U get it. I’m for a free market base, but the lower end has to at least do ok. They need, at a minimum, survival level food, clothing, and housing. And they need hope.

They need hope.
 
Chop said:
Yep. U get it. I’m for a free market base, but the lower end has to at least do ok. They need, at a minimum, survival level food, clothing, and housing. And they need hope.

They need hope.
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You guys are confounding the lower working class with the never do wells. You play into the leftist claims by pointing out the hopeless situation of the never do wells while ignoring the needs of the lower working class. You got it backwards.
 
I'm all for rewarding work. My issue is when productive, hard working people get screwed over on compensation or taken advantage of by cruelly callous businesses.
 
Crockett said:
Right: Either it's ok with you for the top 5% to have 95% and make economic sefs of the rest or you are a Bolshevik. Makes sense if you hate to think seriously about inequality.
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Who said it isn't okay? It all depends on how the top 5% accrued the wealth and how much the other 5% of the economy is growing compared to an historical base. Arguments about the ills of inequality have always been used by Communists as an excuse to steal money and take control of society.

Fears of inequality are also used as justification for gross tyranny on the cultural level too. Forced equality is slavery.

Further, the only way for powerful to extract wealth away from others is through state power. Organic, market based activity simply doesn't cause the horror show you and other Communists imagine in your fever dreams.
 
Chop said:
Yep. U get it. I’m for a free market base, but the lower end has to at least do ok. They need, at a minimum, survival level food, clothing, and housing. And they need hope.

They need hope.
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But your error is shared with the Leftist, which is the belief that a truly free market will produce mass theft. It is the slightly cracked door that is the opening in the conservative mind for massive central government.
 
mchammer said:
You guys are confounding the lower working class with the never do wells. You play into the leftist claims by pointing out the hopeless situation of the never do wells while ignoring the needs of the lower working class. You got it backwards.
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It is that but a bit worse. Because, what is always the "solution" to the problem of "inequality"?
 
Chop said:
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The point you are making is probably not the one you think you are. The French Revolution was the first Leftist revolution catastrophe. The 2nd was the Bolshevik Revolution which borrowed a huge amount from the Jacobins.

The problems with French society weren't caused by a free market but by the French monarchy manipulating the money supply, regulating business, over taxing, and fighting foreign wars. The Jacobins offered the French people the solution of total government, which led to the Great Terror.

The French Revolution is a great example for why people should ignore Leftists crying about "inequality."
 
Crockett said:
I'm all for rewarding work. My issue is when productive, hard working people get screwed over on compensation or taken advantage of by cruelly callous businesses.
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Yes. Inequality isn't the problem. Business misconduct and manipulation by those in political power is. Corporations get away with misconduct when the government acts a backstop for them.
 
Monahorns said:
Business misconduct and manipulation by those in political power is.
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This is part of why United Healthcare and others are able to get away with not abiding by their contracts. They'll deny legitimate claims, knowing most people won't sue them, and if they do get sued, they'll drag it out or push it to arbitration. The court may have accepted donations from United and/or its law firms. The deck is stacked against the healthcare consumer, due in large part to the big insurers' manipulation by lobbying and campaign contributions (which is legalized bribery). It's been this way for a long time.

Up until now, I think most "conservatives" (whatever that term actually means these days) supported the health insurance industry and status quo on this on a (not really free) free - market basis. That worm is turning.
 
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Chop said:
Up until now, I think most "conservatives" (whatever that term actually means these days) supported the health insurance industry and status quo on this on a (not really free) free - market basis. That worm is turning.
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But there is no free market - only Obamacare. You are unintentionally proving the opposite.
 
mchammer said:
But there is no free market - only Obamacare. You are unintentionally proving the opposite.
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Government causes a problem (like fake inequality) and then everyone (including Republicans) thinks the problem is too much freedom and the solution is more government. Wash repeat since 1929 at least.
 
Here's an article from one of the more intelligent and intellectual far-left sites out there:

mronline.org

Luigi Mangione and the morality of killing | MR Online

Kieran Allen delves into the establishment spectacle of condemnation surrounding Luigi Mangione, who has gained folk hero status after allegedly assassinating Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Health Care. Allen explores the morally bankrupt world of private health insurance, where companies...
mronline.org mronline.org
 
Chop said:
Here's an article from one of the more intelligent and intellectual far-left sites out there:

mronline.org

Luigi Mangione and the morality of killing | MR Online

Kieran Allen delves into the establishment spectacle of condemnation surrounding Luigi Mangione, who has gained folk hero status after allegedly assassinating Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Health Care. Allen explores the morally bankrupt world of private health insurance, where companies...
mronline.org mronline.org
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Intelligent? More like the opposite. No mention of scarcity of goods (or services in this case). Full on Marxist.
 
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