Losers

Please list the Longhorn players you think are losers…just curious which ones are in your mind?

Now we're getting somewhere.

Why? Why would I give you any information? You see, I deleted the other thread once I realized that was against the Posting Guidelines. But, why do you care what I think about the team, and then why does that make you feel like you can then call me or any other poster around here a loser?
 
I was standing up for my Horns— dude, that is why. Kind of like defending the US Flag even if all things aren’t great. But that’s me.
 
I was standing up for my Horns— dude, that is why. Kind of like defending the US Flag even if all things aren’t great. But that’s me.
We're all fans. Sometimes we get pissed and write things we wish we hadn't. Doesn't make us losers, I don't think.

I've bled burnt orange since the 80s. Been through a lot of disappointment, so venting on Horn Fans once in a while doesn't change that.

What did change it last year was the things we can only talk about on West Mall that I think you share the same opinions about. Maybe not.
 
I generally agree with HIC on most posts, but the losers post I didn’t. This team might be a sub par .500 team, but they are not losers. They play hard, hustle and generally show “Texas Fight.”

It’s year 1 after a Covid year under Tom Herman. I’ll give it some more time. Calling this team “losers” is dumb.
 
I generally agree with HIC on most posts, but the losers post I didn’t. This team might be a sub par .500 team, but they are not losers. They play hard, hustle and generally show “Texas Fight.”

It’s year 1 after a Covid year under Tom Herman. I’ll give it some more time. Calling this team “losers” is dumb.
[Mack] And, that's fair. [/Brown]

Like I said, sometimes we wish we didn't post something. I deleted the whole thread. But, Ivan may be on to something that we can't talk about here.
 
It is sort of funny that some HF posters like me were given less leeway for comments than the team blowing a lead of historic proportions and doing against OU.
 
For 3 quarters.



Coaching changes do affect things in year one, but every team went through covid not just Texas. This is not a sub par team, just performing sub par. There's a difference.
Yeah. The "culture" at Baylor has been suspect for a while. 2-7 last year and now 7-1 this year. Quite a change in a year.

Sark should be able to do that here.
 
Yeah. The "culture" at Baylor has been suspect for a while. 2-7 last year and now 7-1 this year. Quite a change in a year.

Sark should be able to do that here.

I believe our culture problem is deeper rooted than theirs and is harder to overcome. I drove past McLane Stadium heading to my daughters softball game in the first half. Those fake football fans can't even fill a 45,000 seat stadium being 7-1, ranked and playing Texas. All I could see was the south east upper deck corner and it was empty. Probably about 500+ seats. I'm assuming there were more empty seats I couldn't see.

My point is our players come into an entitlement culture thinking they are an elite program without proving anything thinking they are playing for a national championship. Baylor comes in with zero expectations trying to win today and that culture is much easier to overcome with a good coach.

Baylor gets kudos for winning any game while Texas will get criticized for not winning the right way. Different expectations and totally different cultures to overcome.

Sark has a task in front of him to overcome our problems but we should see improvement game to game and year to year. I'm not sure I did a good job of explaining my position but I tried.
 
I believe our culture problem is deeper rooted than theirs and is harder to overcome. I drove past McLane Stadium heading to my daughters softball game in the first half. Those fake football fans can't even fill a 45,000 seat stadium being 7-1, ranked and playing Texas. All I could see was the south east upper deck corner and it was empty. Probably about 500+ seats. I'm assuming there were more empty seats I couldn't see.

My point is our players come into an entitlement culture thinking they are an elite program without proving anything thinking they are playing for a national championship. Baylor comes in with zero expectations trying to win today and that culture is much easier to overcome with a good coach.

Arranda gets kudos for winning any game while Texas will get criticized for not winning the right way. Different expectations and totally different cultures to overcome.
Good points. And, I thought from the TV broadcast it appeared pretty empty. I though the exact same thing. Can't fill it up when 7-1 against big, bad, mean Texas who is leaving the conference. Maybe it was a boycott lol. Doubt it, though.
 
Perhaps it was the incessant sky-is-falling attitude that nobody wants to hear.
Really? Because even though some may not want to hear or read it, and you can scroll on by, a lot of my comments got Like, Winner, Agree, and Funny. So, I guess not everyone feels that way.

Maybe incessant sunshine pumping is annoying as well.
 
Perhaps it was the incessant sky-is-falling attitude that nobody wants to hear.

And this is the ying and yang of our universe. Someone who says things the way they see it vs someone who says things the way they want to see it. Neither are wrong but they will forever fight. Thats a bigger picture observation than just Hornfans.
 
Channeling my lloyd Benson, here...

"You (Sarkisian) are no Dave Aranda"
True, Sark has done much better in his first year than Dave Aranda did. Let's see if the year 2 turnaround is equally significant.

(Aranda took an 11-3 team to a 2-7 record his first year. WTF would this board do if we had a new head coach with that type of first season results?)
 
(Aranda took an 11-3 team to a 2-7 record his first year. WTF would this board do if we had a new head coach with that type of first season results?)

Our issue is that we talk about our "culture" and how it needs to be fixed. And one year into the regime, we're telling him he needs to fire people. What is the longest that we've maintained a consistent coaching staff here? How long has it been since we went two years without firing a coach? You don't develop a culture in one year. You generally don't develop it in two years. So if our problem is, in fact, culture, then we need to sit back, shut up and give the staff a chance to put that culture into place.

Maybe the reason we have done such a garbage job of developing an O-line is that we're constantly changing offensive schemes? I'm curious how much that plays into how you teach a lineman to perform his assignments and how much they change from coach to coach and scheme to scheme.

Anyway... I'm saying the same thing I've been saying all year. We don't have the pieces in place on either side of the LOS to be elite. We have coaches coming in trying to coach us like we're an elite team and this is the result. They're going to have to fix that problem in recruiting and transfers, and sadly, o-linemen don't typically blossom overnight. We might see some real improvement on the d-line more quickly, but right now they have to decide whether they're going to commit to this identity or if they're going to figure out a way to win in the short term with what we have.

This is in many ways like when Mack decided we were going to magically become a power running team...
 
I think many Longhorn fans fail to understand the damage Strong and Herman did to the program culturally.
The University did the same in trying to hire coaches to be culturally correct. They turned out to be bad hires and helped lead to turmoil on campus. We are still suffering for that today and may never recover. This attitude has been passed on to students and we can see it in our athletics,band and student body.
 
The University did the same in trying to hire coaches to be culturally correct. They turned out to be bad hires and helped lead to turmoil on campus. We are still suffering for that today and may never recover. This attitude has been passed on to students and we can see it in our athletics,band and student body.
The AD is the person responsible for establishing the Culture, from the top down. Evidently, he’s a great finance guy. But he is not the right guy for the AD slot at UT.
Someone want to pull together the winning percentage of the major sports since his hire in 2017? That’s the obvious stat that demonstrates the issue. What that doesn’t reveal, are the underlying systemic losing mentalities that have developed under his leadership. But make no mistake, the results are the most important.
 
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Those who win - OU receivers making circus catches.

Those who do not - UT receivers dropping catchable balls.

The difference is plain to see.
 
Really? Because even though some may not want to hear or read it, and you can scroll on by, a lot of my comments got Like, Winner, Agree, and Funny. So, I guess not everyone feels that way.

Maybe incessant sunshine pumping is annoying as well.
I guess you think your incessant sky-is-falling negativity is going to make positive changes in the program. Undefeated seasons will occur every season or something

Or maybe its your mission to knock down those posters who see some positives in coach Sark.
For example, recruiting is trending upward, the opposite of downward.
Alabama has been king the last dozen years because of the talent they recruit each year.
That is Sark's goal and my goal. However if we fire the head coach every year because he loses two -four games we will never get anywhere.
So if you temper your incessant sky-is-falling negativity with something like "but let's give him time to recruit a few classes" it will make your posts more tolerable.
If you read my posts they are far from sunshine posts cause i and everyone can see whats happening on the field. I point out the bad. Losing games in the fourth hurts like hell. We already know the bad.

Part of Sark's problem is is a bit old school and since we have a lead in the late going he wants to run out the clock with long drives with power football. Hence the stuffed runs. The defense is now retching up their intensity cause they are behind. But we don't have the talent to win with power football. In the last loss the QB made mistakes and bad throws. And when he made a good throw we dropped the ball. So we need guys who can throw consistent accurate throws and we need guys who can hang on to the ball when it hits their hands. And we need the hosses up front to block and give time to make things happen. Its called recruiting and portalling. But you know this already so why the negativity.
You cant fire the coach every year hoping to stumble upon a magical coach cause it takes talent to win consistently.
Now it looks like Georgia is on the cusp of becoming the next Alabama. Why? Because they are getting the recruits, especially the difference making recruits. Kirby Smart has been there more than one season. So we need to give Sark time to recruit. And it looks like the top recruits are responding to Sark.
Then after getting very good recruits in all positions for a couple or three classes it won't matter as much if we drop a pass in the end zone because we will be so dominant. It takes time to build talent and depth.
Getting dominating talent is the goal. Without which we get exposed. We lose leads.
Yes we could be 7-1 right now as i slam my fist on table. But we need the talent.
 
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Haha, I didn't realize posters on a fan board were doing things to change the program.

:lmao:

Seriously, use the Ignore button. I really don't care.
 
Oh, and hey there, Professor, I guess you have missed my comments saying that Sark needs time and I think and hope he is The Guy. Must have missed that.

And, you may not know that living up here I pay a premium to have LHN on DirecTV.

But, yes, I just suck as a fan.

Why don't you go home and get your shine box?
 

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