Lance giving up the fight against the USADA.

He passed every drug test administered and he was tested hundreds of times. The USADA is on a witch hunt I think. Lance probably just got tired of it all since it just kept persisting after all these years. I think maybe the USADA in sports is the equivalent of the Nazi Gestapo and Soviet KGB or whatever they are called. The worse thing is our tax dollars support the USADA while Lance has to spend millions on lawyers. If we had spend money on our forests instead of the USADA maybe some houses could have been saved in these recent fires. Good Grief.
 
I was very young then of course but I remember the Holleywood witch hunts of the 50s when a lot of innocent people were accused of being communists. It turned out they were innocent and many of them suffered career setbacks.
 
This is not an admission of guilt or wrong doing. Lance quit fighting an agency he concluded was rotten to the core. Based on the fraudulent guise of an "objective investigation," USADA embarked on a capricious witch hunt involving allegations over 10 years old. Lance was never going to get a fair shake in USAD's arbitration process.

So, he flipped them the bird. Good for him. USADA can suck it.
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Looks like a done deal.


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I know the French hated Lance, but why does the USA
organization care that much? Are they that positive that
he doped or do they have an ax to grind like the Frenchies?

I guess late night talk show hosts will bring back the jokes of Barry Bonds in the Tour De France joined by the new entry of whether Lance can hit the curve ball.
 
Scary part of it is that it's a Federally funded organization. The US government with a hand in a private organization that can round up witnesses and proceed with a kangaroo court. Scary ****.
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Apparently the International Cycling Union has requested that the USADA provide reasoned written support for its recommendation that the Tour titles be stripped from Armstrong. Not sure that's designed to support their accepting and acting on the recommendation or not, but will be great fun if cycling's body says "thanks, but no thanks".
 
Exactly, he played within the rules all during his career, and because they were determined to bust him, they changed the rules. If he fought this and won whose to say they wouldn't change the rules again on him.

Also, while he did make a lot of money during his career I doubt he is making that much any more and the cost of fighting these same charges over and over is probably very substantial.
 
On The Herd this morning, a call-in came from a prior US cycling champ with added credentials (can't remember what that was). He raised several points about 'power' being the issue. That this was a grab for power by the USADA, and that it has no power to strip Tour de France titles. That is entirely up to those who run the Tour.

In addition to that he mentioned the WADA, World Anti-Doping Agency, and that the USADA would appear to have over-reached on this matter. Further, he said that given this event of this magnitude, given this "reach," that the NFL, MLB, and a host of other sports organizations, will never sign on to the WADA. I believe that was what was said. The point being that sports organizations do not want to hand over this kind of power.

The caller said that the USADA is now in position to need more scrutiny under the microscope -- just as much as they are looking under the microscope at sports. He said that whoever controls doping, controls sports, and that power is going to be the question as a result of this. I would think sports organizations want to manage their own doping/substance matters.

Colin also said that Lance has moved beyond cycling as an identity, that he's raised over $500m in cancer support funds, and is beyond cycling having that much impact on his life, ie., his legacy. He has other things by which to identify himself and his legacy. Colin said many professionals change fields and go on to establish an different identity.

I personally feel Armstrong took this tactic in hopes it would cave in on the USADA. Which I give better than 50-50 that it will. I also like the idea that in a way Lance can posture himself as bigger than this whole mess. By mess I mean a sleezy power play.

And I hope the Tour organizers don't yield any power to these buttheads calling themselves USADA.
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I just got home this morning from a 30-mile bike ride to see the headline splashed across msn.com. He was tested and passed. He rode and won, just as he'd been doing since high school. I can't make any connection to USADA and what they're trying to do beyond ego and power. I'd be curious if any of the lard asses in USADA could survive ONE DAY of RAGBRAI, much less any stage of le Tour.

I promtly surfed over to Mello Johnny's and Livestrong to see if there were any jersey's or T's I'd be interested in and found a couple. Lance and Livestrong are improving our world. F USADA.

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The more I read about this, and the more comments I see and read, I am firmly of the opinion that

1. Lance Armstrong did the right thing, and

2. Lance Armstrong will be the winner in the long run, regardless what other agencies might decide to do.
 
Discussions on ESPN and on 104.9 later-in-the-day call-in, keeps pointing out the fact the USADA is going after funding... if it can exert power and make a monster splash pulling down Armstrong, it improves it's grab for government funding. They want to be 'the guy' sports organizations turn to for regulating doping/substance abuse.

This whole affair is like a defense lawyer making a name for himself, or a prosecuting lawyer making a run for D.A., then maybe Governor.

I sincerely hope it blows up. From what I am hearing, organizations to not want to give this kind of power to a quasi-government backed organization. We'll see.
 
Junior Miller this morning on the ticket: basically made all of the points you guys made. He also said Lance has never claimed to have not used the doping stuff, he just points to the fact that he has never failed a doping test. Junior says maybe he's guilty, maybe not, but who will the tour recognize as the champ if not Armstrong?

Junior said the #2-5 place finishers were all either caught or admitted doping.

Junior also said part of the ADA's motivation might be that Lance was training seriously for the Ironman triathlon, and in their opinion giving them the finger, by placing very high in a different sport.

Personally, I like the theory that the ADA is trying to make a big name for themselves, the DA to governor theory.
 
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To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; ...
 
I certainly don't condone any hidden agenda that the USADA may have, but after considering all the recent allegations in their report, including those made by most of his former teammates, I don't see how anyone can continue to defend Armstrong.

I admire Armstrong for his work with his Livestrong foundation, but it's a sad day when a perceived hero is exposed as something less.
 
I really am on the fence about all this. Part of me wants to believe that he didnt do anything wrong, but it would seem that everyone is saying that he did. If everyone else was doping, he still beat them all, whether or not he did dope.

I just dont know if it matters or not.
 
He was tested more than any ahtlete and always tested negative. I think the USADA was on a witch hunt and he was tired of it. And we still don't know who these brave souls were that testified against him possibly in violation of the Open Records Act since USADA is funded by us taxpayers. In its' witch hunt all USADA has done is probably condemned an innnocent man and cost taxpayers a lot of money and cost many dollars in cancer research resulting in loss of lives.
I wish the moderator in the third debate would ask both presidential candidates if they were going to keep USADA as a tax supported sponge or not. It needs to go. If we had used that money for forest fire preventions maybe a lot of property could have been spared.
 
So that’s all the various Lance jock sniffers have anymore. Rants about how all of bicycle racing is full of dope fiends, so he cheated against cheaters, and some random rambling about how money spend on this or ice cream or anything else could have been used to buy shovels and axes for Bastrop?

A mighty fall for the legions of yellow band wearing sniffers who used to live through the efforst of a dope shooting cheater.

Look at the upside of all this. The next time Lance tries to cut in line in front of you at a bar, and pulls that “Don’t you know who I am crap”, stare back at him and say “Yeah, a cheater who has just has many Tour de Dope titles as I do.”
 
^^^^^

Hey, Golden Steer, publish a list of your favorites and we'll vet them for you. You feeling un-vindicated or something?
 
I have no favorite riders - they all seem to be dope fiends. That's why I came up with the great idea of having an unlimited class, where riders could shoot themselves up with various horse drugs and other people's blood without fear of being caught. Plus they could practice such things as injecting dope into their *** whilst cycling, without breaking their wind tuck.

Bike racing is similar to wresting. Both are full of dope heads and both are fake. If you enjoy it, good for you. Open up the bag of chips and enjoy the cage match or mountain stage.
 
I think you miss the point of HuFan's most recent post, which has less to do with excusing Lance Armstrong than it does with the pontificating attitude of the cycling 'regulatory' bodies.
 
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