Just how clutch is Kobe?

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HornFan16

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Here is an in depth look at it for anyone who believes Kobe is the all time or even current Mr. Clutch.
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Conclusion: Not. Clutch. At. All. One interesting stat is that Kobe has 36 makes and 79 misses tied or trailing by two or less points in the last 24 seconds of the game. That puts him close to dead last among players with at least 30 of those shots. But hey, at least he has one assist in the last 5 years to go along with all of those shots.
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Since I'm too lazy to follow the link... do they take in to account when he does them? Regular season vs playoffs? I don't remember him missing many clutch situations in the playoffs... except for last year when Gasol got the easy rebound and 2 to knock out the Thunder.....and I think Fisher is more clutch than Kobe anyhow.
 
This has been discussed in depth about a year ago. This is a very subjective discussion. To start with the criteria that they go with is very subjective. shot within 24 seconds isn't necessarily the clutchest game winning shot. It isn't a game winner with 2 defenders on you and a hand in your face. Also there were some other stats mentioned last time that showed how clutch Kobe is in the last 5 minutes of games.

I'll take the opinion of the NBA GMs and players over this Henry Abbott guy.
 
Who else on the Lakers is going to take the shot? Sporting News had a good article about Kobe a little while ago about how when it seems like he's "off," he's still better than everyone else on his own team. You can't trust Gasol or Odom to be a strong #2 guy. They have way too many iffy performances, so Kobe tries to do a little too much sometimes.
 
Oh man. This thread is more hilarious that last year's if only because it is a hoot that 16 is still carrying the torch.

Talk about an axe to grind.

Kobe shut your *** up like a ******* hairless clam last season.

Ring.

Glad to see you have been stewing, though, because the more pointless the argument the more amusing the tenacity.

Your little stat fest remains pointless. He has been a major cog on a team that has won more than any other team during his career. For most of that time he was the best player on the team, and for much of the time he was arguably the best player in the league.

There is no one else on the Lakers team that should be taking these shots. It is hard to imagine a coach going away from him, though he has on occasion given up the last shot (the others don't perform even half as well as he does). He is the go to guy and they win, not just close games, but championships.
 
For the sake of clarity, Abbot's point is not really about how many of Kobe's 115 crunch time shots he's made vs. missed. His point is more about crunch time efficiency of the team overall, which involves finding open looks for teammates during those moments. In that sense, Kobe is not close to being the best because, like Abbot notes and so many haters like to point out, Kobe always...always...takes the last shot. Relatively easy to defend when you know he's going to hoist it up.

However, let's not start bringing in guys like Robert Horry into any discussion of all-time clutch. Big Shot Bob built his reputation on making open 3's to win ball games. Yes, that requires a degree of "clutch" to, say, NOT miss that shot. But there is a big difference between taking (and making) an open shot at the buzzer versus handling the ball and creating with the clock winding down. The former doesn't exist without a great deal of the latter.

Like Abbot even concedes:
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