Joseph pleads guilty

Probation sounds like a great deal and people always want to act like the judges are soft because of it, but if you didn't notice, the prisons are full. What would you do? Build more prisons? Do you really think that is the answer? 8-10 years is a long time to not get a pi, a dwi, into a fight, etc. They have to regularly fill the little cup, and they have to pay fines, probation fees, etc. If they screw up big again, they get revoked. They go to prison, and that's fine. If they learned a lesson and want to put it behind them, they have to be very close to model citizens for a long time. It's hard as hell to be a kid these days and stay out of trouble. No one ever makes you pour out your beer, or just breaks up a fight and sends people home; they get arrested. Kids in high school get arrested if they get into a fight. The opportunities for these guys to violate their probation are many, and if they make it for 8-10 years, then I'm glad I didn't have to pay for them to sit in a cell. I'd rather them be paying some taxes instead of absorbing mine.
 
Does their guilty plea keep them from receiving a scholarship from, say, a Div II school or maybe a JC. I would think that any school probably should take the high road and not offer, but what about a school, at a lower level who is desperate for a quality athlete no matter how many warts he has? What they did cannot be condoned, but the courts have given them a second chance and put them back out on the streets where they have a chance to redeem themselves. Very few in their situation will, however some will rise above past indiscretions and succeed in life. I sincerely hope they have learned their lessons and make the best of their second chances.
 
The loss of one's civil rights following conviction of a felony does not affect the ability of an NCAA regulated institution to offer financial aid, except such aid governed by federal or state laws which prohibit the grant to convicted felons. There may be several schools willing to take a chance on these knuckleheads. They can't vote, but they can play.

They sort of knocked the hell out of that "good kids who graduate" line.

BTW, I don't recall having heard the presumption of innocence assured under our judicial system characterized as "nonsense", but I don't watch much television or listen to "talk radio." Is this a commonly accepted perspective?
 
Eight years probation? Isn't this "strike five"? How about good old Coach Colbert that withheld info on the juvie situations while Mack (and otehrs) was recruiting Joseph. It would be a cold day in hell before I recruited anyone from Atascocita HS while he's the coach.

Joseph is a tremendous talent and could have been the hardest hitter in our secondary since Richard Peavy. I wish him well and hope he gets his act together, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
Branyon, no offense taken. There's been a lot crazier stuff on this board. Cheers.
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