Jarboe Dismissed from OU Football Team

Some of the posters on the site the article is on keep saying "When did rap become illegal?" Do they understand that the kid wasn't arrested, but kicked off of a football team?
 
I assume the kid was pretty surprised. I mean, he brought a loaded gun to his high school and was allowed to graduate. Think about that, people. He brought a loaded gun to his high school (that turned out to be stolen) yet still managed to graduate and receive a scholarship from OU.

I guess he figured he could get away with anything (though it should be noted he did receive probation). Yes, I imagine he is very surprised right now. I applaud Coach Stoops for making this decision. At the same time, I think it's fair to criticize Stoops for allowing him onto the team in the first place. I understand and appreciate the glass-houses argument, but wtf? I can't believe this kid was permitted to step foot on campus after what he did in high school only a few months before.

Here's the other thing that strikes me as interesting: I just don't believe that OU is that desperate. I don't buy into the argument that Stoops let Jarboe onto the team because OU suffers from a talent shortage at that or any other position.

Which creates something of a conundrum. Why allow Jarboe onto the team? The Okie answer would probably be that Stoops believes in giving urban males the full benefit of the doubt, what with all the disadvantages they suffer in life. But I wonder. Could it be that Stoops is trying to cultivate, albeit to a lesser degree, the thug culture embraced by Switzer and pretty much every coach Miami has ever had (except for Butch Davis)? Could it be he believes that an outlaw element might be advantageous in an overall sense with respect to recruiting?

Perhaps that sounds a bit far out. But I just can't wrap my mind around the contradictions implicit in this whole episode. Yes, there was the DL that dealt dope. So the f what. This is different. This kid had thug written all over him. If ever there was a kid who screamed thug, it was this kid. OU is laden with talent. They are a national recruiting power. Their fortunes do not and did not hinge on Jarboe. And yet they took him anyway.

Curious.
 
I think it is a fair question and one that many Sooner Boosters were asking when his scholarship offer wasn't pulled immediately after his arrest.

I am not privy to any inside information. I think Coach Stoops was about to pull his scholarship offer. His high school coaches/teachers and other faculty made a plea that this was a good kid that have never been in any trouble prior to the gun arrest.

He came to OU on a short leash. Something had to have happened or came to light sometime between Thursday and Friday morning.

At this point I am not completely sure what to think but I trust Coach Stoops to make the best decisions for the program.

Yes it does hurt to lose a potentially great player. We do have another good freshman receiver in this class so it may turn out to not be an issue at all.

I hope the kid straightens up and tears it up somewhere. I hate to see this kind of potential utterly flushed down the toilet. For all I know he is unpacking at okie lite and we will all get to see him anyway
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With all the trouble we have had in recent years, let him come to Austin and maybe we can get 2 years out of him.

Don't be mad at me. A few of you thought it too when you heard he was kicked off.
 
theropods...

You took the thoughts right out of may head. When someone wrote what happened between thur. and fri. morning, I said to myself that someone higher up made the call!!!! I think we're giving Stoops too much credit.
 
Maybe, maybe not. Stoops has let McGruder and Dvoraceck stay and kept this kids ship after the gun. He's not exactly been tough on these sorts of things in the past. His history, combined with the "dissapointed in the outcome" part of the quote above makes it sound to me like it came from over his head.
 
McGruder never did anything wrong at OU. In fact, he received the Big 12 Sportsman of the Year Award in 2003 and was nominated for the Football Writers Association's Most Courageous Award. He screwed up at Tennessee.

Dusty was indefinately suspended.

(I'll avoid bringing up other players' punishments that UT fans tend to forget as well).

In both cases, they got a 2nd chance & respected it. I just don't think Jarboe respected his 2nd chance.

I also don't think that Stoops had actually seen the YouTube video when he made his original comments. Couple that with an in-person meeting with Jarboe & that as they say, was that.

Though I fully admit I have no more inside knowledge than you do. You could be right.

I wish the kid the best though & hope he stay out of trouble.
 
Jarboe was in the car w/ Phil Loadholt when he was arrested for DUI.
Stoops doesn't have a history w/ this kid wlike he did w/ Dusty & no way of knowing his real character in just a few months of contact during recruiting. (something that I'm sure both coaches would like to have less sever santions on, you really don't know what you're getting)
Word is that Stoops had some upper classmen hang out w/ him to see if he was really thug or just immature.
Word came back that he is "scary"....whatever that means.
Don't know if it was Stoops or Joe C./ Boren but, this kid probably saved OU a headline.
 
Quite a few people think that the decision to dismiss Josh Jarboe came from above Coach Stoops and it very well could have. It would be inconsistent with the way the football program has been run since Coach Stoops arrival. In the past Coach Stoops has had total control over running the football program.

I suppose this situation is a little different in that Josh Jarboe has generated more hard feelings among fans, locals, and the other Boosters that I talk to daily. That could be the difference to get Mr Boren or Mr Castiglione involved.
 
I'm sure he will end up somewhere and post some good numbers. It will be interesting to see where he goes.
 
And so is ACL's. Stoops has been really lenient on everyone but Bomar and Quinn. This action would be inconsistent with his past actions imho.
 
With all the school shootings lately, carrying a gun to school is as bad as taking one to an airport after 9/11. Oh wait, only former coaches do that.
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This costs OU one of their highly prized recruits from 08. They haven't had a ton of offensive weapon the last couple of classes and losing this guy will their WR core down the line. Owens and Miller remain from the 08 class but the 3 they took in 07 weren't very highly recruited. Tennell from 06 could have a breakout season this year so we'll see. They have one WR in their 09 class and he is middle of the road as well (not big, not fast).

I just don't see Bradford with a ton of weapons to throw to in 09, especially after Gresham leaves after this season.

Seems to me that Stoops is reaching more than ever on some of the guys he takes. This is a bit of a gamble.

So far from their 08 class they have lost Jarboe (kicked off team) and Mitchell (joined the marines).
 
No ACL. Stoops had no possible way of knowing the NCAA would grant Dusty a 6th year when he suspended him.

AT THE TIME, the indefinate suspension was the end of his Dusty's college career.
 
Pharmd - OU still has Broyles from the 07 class at WR. He was a highly thought of recruit (and his shiftiness around the gas pump bodes well for his on-field play making abilities).
 
hornpharmd,

How many of OU's top receiver's under Stoops were highly touted 5-Stars coming in? Not many.
(I only have rivals Star rankings going back to 2002 class).

-Antoine Savage was a HS QB.
-Curtis Fagan was a DB in high school
-Josh Norman was a RB
-Mark Clayton wasn't thought too highly of.
-Trent Smith & Joe John Finley (3-Star) weren't exactly HS All-American TEs.
-Juaquin Iglesias was a 3-Star

WR is one of the positions under Stoops that the highly ranked guys often don't work out but they. In fact, i couldn't find a single 5 Star WR that OU's had, but the offense is generally potent through the years.

OL has been the same way for the most part.

Plus, it'll greatly help Sam & the receiving corps that OU is loaded at RB for the forseeable future.
 
They do have RB under control. Next year after they have 5 or so seniors graduate their OL will have a drop off. Bradford will also see some issues at WR IMO due to the recruiting they have done and losing 3 top WR's after 08. This is what I have been saying about the high #'s of LB's and OL they have been taking. You can't load up on certain positions so much that you you leave yourself thin at others.j

You gotta admit it is a bit of an issue.
 
As was Gresham. Tennel was the top-ranked WR in Texas his year (and 3rd in the nation after Harvin and Hazelton). But Stoops is an uber coach who gets the most out of his recruits and turns scrubs into All-Americans.
 
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