I've watched UT football for 64 years . . . .

Our offense has sucked for so long, but the 2017 team has to hold the record for most times stuffed with one yard to go.

All struggles aside, this team hasn't improved on offense at all. Regardless of the defense, we can't compete in the Big 12 with these numbers. This team is eerily similar to the 2013 version. Case/Ash were basically the same as Sam/Shane. Mike Davis had nearly identical stats as Collin Johnson did (except Davis scored 8 times to Johnson's 2). The biggest difference was that Fera hit 91% of his field goals vs. Rowland's 59% (105 points vs. 64). Fera vs. Rowland adds another 3.5 points per game over 12 games. That would have made a difference in two games this year.

*Hat tip to IvanDiablo and a few others who pointed out the "lack of a kicker issue" before the season ever started.

For comparison, Texas is ranked in the middle of the pack on total offense at #50/29.2 ppg. OU is #1/45.3 ppg, Ok State #2/46.3 ppg, WVa #12/36.3 ppg, Tech #18/34.3 ppg, and TCU #39/34.5 ppg) - all loses with the exception of WVa. It turns out that all of those teams with the exception of TCU have a worse total team D stat than we do, too.

I guess you have to score points to win games in this league.

Here is the thing that absolutely worries me. Our D is much improved and kept us in a lot of games. That said, they are ranked 46th overall. That's not bad for a Big 12 team (TCU is the only one ranked better at #20). If we experience a drop off on D, without a HUGE improvement on O, we could be in the horse latitudes for several more years.

2017 Offense #50 record: (6-6) +/- 1
YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
4900 408 3198 266.5 1702 141.8 350 29.2

2016 Offense #37 (5-7)
YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
5895 491 3024 252.0 2871 239.3 383 31.9

2015 Offense #100 (5-7)
YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
4449 371 1751 145.9 2698 224.8 317 26.4

2014 Offense #105 (6-6 regular season - lost bowl game)
YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
4385 337 2599 199.9 1786 137.4 278 21.4

2013 Offense #61 (8-4 regular season - lost bowl game)
YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
5313 409 2762 212.5 2551 196.2 381 29.3

2012 Offense #37 (8-4 regular season - won bowl game)
YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
5650 435 3421 263.2 2229 171.5 464 35.7

Hopefully we recruit well, but we always seem to do that as far as the recruiting ratings are concerned. The problem is that those ratings don't seem to matter when it comes to winning games. I'm not sure what the problem is. I can't take credit for this (someone else said it on this board), and I am paraphrasing, "Beating Kansas for an extra win this year can't seriously be called improvement".
 
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dukesteer said:
while coaching the Cougars. His cocky attitude has not served him well here.

Perhaps interestingly, my primary issue with Ehlinger -- before he played one snap, was his cocky attitude.
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Yes ... again ... someone tell Sam to stop signaling first down for crying out loud. How many times does that followed by his ill-advised decision resulting in a turnover have to happen before he knocks that off.

It contributes NOTHING but an air of over confidence ... while in the midst of a search for definition other than below-average.
 
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I am the first to admit that I knee-jerk and have a short term memory but this is as bad of a home loss as I can remember in several years.
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Iowa State says hi.

Godz40acres said:
Q: Why did you pass the ball on the 3rd and 2?
A: Because our running game wasn't successful.

Stat: Daniel Young - 13/56 = 4.2 YPC
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As someone pointed out, average doesn't mean a lot. If you run it 10 times for gains of 20, 12, 0, 3, 2, 1, 3, 2, 1, 1, you just averaged 4.5 yards per carry. Anyone want to bet on that runner gaining 3 yards with the game on the line?

Now having said that... I think he should have rolled Elingher out with an RPO or just sucked it up and tried the run anyway. Not defending the decision, just saying that I don't think Daniel Young's YPC average is a reason to say he was wrong.

hornsfan1026 said:
I think the AD should be fired on the spot if he allows this team to go to a bowl, and the coach should be treated the same if he argues for a bowl. This team needs to stay home and practice, and get a better attitude.
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They don't go to a bowl game, they don't practice. Seriously people...
 
Agree with most, but the factor missing here is consistency in coaching along with inexperienced QB’s. Throw in a much higher than average OL injury bug and this is what you get.
My concern is the rumored pro defectors who are making huge mistakes. It seems every year UT has a young team with s new QB- Please don’t ask me to explain this phenomenon because I can’t.

Consistent coaching, like Texas has right now, with returning players and experience at quarterback will right the ship
When that happens I don’t know
 
Bayerithe said:
There's something just not right with his head. We need Buechelle to carry us for a year, while we find a QB this year that can redshirt and then start in 2019.
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I want to reply to the first sentence of the above quote. I don't think there is anything really wrong with Sam's head. Although I can see why you might think that. And i am not calling for an unreviewable assignment of Boo to the starter role.

Remember early in the season when all the announcers repeated the old saw that "Sam played QB with the mentality of a linebacker." That is an accurate statement. And that is, I think, Sam's problem. It is his personality. And all football fans love seeing a Linebacker knock someone on his asss. It's the personification of toughness. We love toughness. It's the essence of football.

However, its not the best for QB, unless you are running the single wing. if Sam played for Bill Snyder at KSU, he would be all world.

He has been unable to comprehend that "discretion is the better part of valor" and I don't think he ever will. He cannot assess risk (when to throw away, when to eat it, etc.) quickly, instinctively. Sam is courageous to a fault. Put Sam in for specific situations (short yardage, goal line) and like Sabre said, mix in some under center snaps; mix in some option; mix in a little veer look. Sam would play the 18 wheeler better than Swoopes. Sam is shiftier, quicker, strong and a better passer. Limit Sam's options. Too many options (throw away, reading defenses, progressing through your recievers, should he try to fit it into a tight spot, etc.) aren't going to work for Sam. They actually will increase his error proneness. I think we've all seen that enough.

But he is not properly equipped to play in Beck's system. He could not play at a top level in Gilbert's system either. Sam is a linebacker in QB's clothing. He takes risks, he shoots the ball into places without thinking. He plows straight into someone without any hint of avoiding the hit. He seeks the hit.

Sam's a great kid. He's a hell of a player. But, he will not take this team to the promised land unless the offense is changed to fit a more Snyder like approach. Personally, I don't like that idea. I think he has a place, but not as the starter and every play QB. We need a much better passer. And Someone who fits the needs of the position in the scheme TH and his OC implement.

Buechelle fits a passing scheme much better. But Sam has great ability to help this team win games, as a situational player. I am not saying Boo is the long term answer. One of the new recruits may knock our socks off. Boo may transfer. Who knows?
 
hornsfan1026 said:
and I've never seen a more lackluster, gutless display of lazy, disinterested, and uninspired football in all that time.

We got outhustled, outcoached, and outplayed. Only the punter was worth allowing on the field. Every other part of this team got physically and mentally overwhelmed.

I've also come to the conclusion that this head coach is not ready to run this program. I doubt we've upgraded over the most recent head coach.

We were totally beaten in every phase of this game.

It will be a travesty if UT is allowed to go to a bowl game.

At least the volleyball and women's basketball teams have enough balls to compete.
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Worse efforts - Route 66, OU 2000, Arkansas 2014 (Bowl game), TCU 2015, Notre Dame 2015, Kansas 2016, Iowa State 2015,
These are worse efforts just off the top of my head. I didn't even have to go back to McWilliams.
 
4th_floor said:
Worse efforts - Route 66, OU 2000, Arkansas 2014 (Bowl game), TCU 2015, Notre Dame 2015, Kansas 2016, Iowa State 2015,
These are worse efforts just off the top of my head. I didn't even have to go back to McWilliams.
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I agree 4th Floor. This team is frustrating on offense. But TH is not going anywhere and if the 2018 recruiting class finishes #2 where it's ranked now and some of these players on the fence about coming back do come back. Next year could be a lot different. I am just a glass is half full person generally, but I do see glimmers of hope with Texas in 2017.
 
I am sorry, but let's assume OP really has been watching for 64 years. He is then 70 plus years old if you assume he started watching when he was 6. I remember my first games around 8 years old.

God bless your internet skills if you are actually over 70 posting on an internet board. However, I have suspicions this is an Aggy troll hoping we do not meet in Houston.
 
dukesteer said:
My biggest issue with Herman coming in, in fact my only issue, was his cocky, know-it-all nature. I'll never forget the confrontational interview he had with those Houston journalists while coaching the Cougars. His cocky attitude has not served him well here.

Perhaps interestingly, my primary issue with Ehlinger -- before he played one snap, was his cocky attitude.

Interesting coincidence.
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Some cocky sobs huh? I love it!!! Much needed.
 
Defcon 1 fire position coach
Defcon 2 fire cooordinator
Defcon 3 fire other coordinator, a strength coach, and a lhn commentator.
Defcon 4- You are fired. You are fired. You are fired.

A New Beginning-Rehire
 
hornsfan1026 said:
and I've never seen a more lackluster, gutless display of lazy, disinterested, and uninspired football in all that time.

We got outhustled, outcoached, and outplayed. Only the punter was worth allowing on the field. Every other part of this team got physically and mentally overwhelmed.

I've also come to the conclusion that this head coach is not ready to run this program. I doubt we've upgraded over the most recent head coach.

We were totally beaten in every phase of this game.

It will be a travesty if UT is allowed to go to a bowl game.

At least the volleyball and women's basketball teams have enough balls to compete.
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I'm not going to read through all the replies so I might be repeating something already said...
Between the b-ball team and f-ball discouragements, I've been mostly absent from the board since then. But to say this is the worst performance? You miss most of last season, in particular Kansas? ISU in '15? Mackovic's "you cna't expect to beat rice every year" game? I remember one year attending a home game when we were losing to tech and the players were dancing on the sidelines. To me that has been the low point in player disinterest in results on the field.
 
I have sat through many low points because I've never left a game early, but not sure any were as bad as Mackovic's game in Memorial Stadium against A&M, where the team quit.

I actually called RC on Monday to apologize for "my team" quitting and playing less than 30 of the 60 minutes. We visited for 35 minutes about his NCAA problems, our coaching problems, and his family.
 
I'm no John Mackovic fan-boy, but he took Texas to three bowl games, had one 10 win season and two 8 win seasons. He also won a couple of conference championships. In fact, his only losing season was his last (which was an absolute disaster at 4-7).

I know, I know, it was a different time. Regardless of his style, an argument could be made that he did more with much less (facilities and players). Nobody since Mack Brown has proven they are better than he was at this point. I'm hopeful that will change.
 
ProdigalHorn said:
Now having said that... I think he should have rolled Elingher out with an RPO or just sucked it up and tried the run anyway
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The wide runs were the least successful. Most of the positive yards were between the tackles. TTU has a very good front 7. The y have been torched by the pass, not the run. We played the wrong QB.
 
theiioftx said:
am sorry, but let's assume OP really has been watching for 64 years. He is then 70 plus years old if you assume he started watching when he was 6. I remember my first games around 8 years old.

God bless your internet skills if you are actually over 70 posting on an internet board. However, I have suspicions this is an Aggy troll hoping we do not meet in Houston.
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Just want to say that I personally know of multiple Hornfan posters 70+ years of age. I have no idea if the OP is a troll or not, but please don't start expressing ageism discrimination statements about the abilities of your fellow Hornfans. Age is not a legit reason to hammer a Hornfan. Believe it or not, computer skills don't disappear at seventy. And yes, people can still learn new things after fifty. I've taught many old dogs new tricks.

Criticize us for stupidity, narcissism, arrogance, rudeness, and lots of other reasons, but please not just because we've been able to survive on this planet for three score and ten years+.
 
Regarding Mackovic, I would have taken his offense this year, we might have won nine games utilizing his offensive game plans.

Regarding our offense this year, it is the Ohio State offense. Watching Ohio State vs Michigan. OSU's offense is our offense on steroids. The qb can take a nap before he has to throw the ball to one of two receivers running routes and the running backs have massive holes to run through.
When you play with 4 & 5 star players, you can run any offense. Heck, with OSU players, they can run the wishbone and win 12 games.
I don't like the offense, but understand why you would run it if you have the best players. Kind of like Alabama's offense.
With our players need to run an offense with 4 or 5 wide outs and pass 9 out of every 10 plays. Pass quickly..
 
caryhorn said:
Just want to say that I personally know of multiple Hornfan posters 70+ years
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I'll amen this entire post, cary.

My Pops passed at 72 last year. Until cancer got him down in the last month/so, he was a prolific internet user, not only a BBS participant.

Perhaps "Iis" would like to extend his slight to 90 or 100 ... but then the timeline for the basis of his comment wouldn't fit ... so ... it was the finesse of shifting gears of a 1962 Chevy Bus! :P
 
Not quite 70 y/o here but just a few weeks short of 66. I do reasonably well with all new newfangled Internet stuff, but there is a lot I don't know about the IT world. That said, I know a bunch of old f**ts who could probably run circles around a lot of these whiz kids who only think they know it all.
 
theiioftx said:
Apologies. God bless those internet skills. Did not mean to offend anyone on here.
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Thanks theiioftx, and I fully understand that you meant no harm. I hope that you are here and going strong when you are blessed and lucky enough to be 70+ and still giving your two cents worth about our beloved horns. I can tell you one truism: Love for the horns does not fade with age. I've lost a good bit of hair, can't do as many chin ups or push ups as I used to, but the horns shine as bright in my heart as ever. And I suspect it'll be the same for you. :hookem2: :beertoast:
 
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The problem we have is similar to Shawn Watson. While Beck may be slightly better than Watson (not a compliment), he suffers from the same key flaw: both men only know how to run one type of offense and cannot adjust to the players they have.

Watson only knows the pro style offense. It was never going to work with Heard and Swoopes, but Watson tried anyway.

Beck only knows the Urban Meyer offense. It makes no sense for Buechele and Ehlinger can less than successfully run it, but Beck tries it anyway.

Yet again, we are stuck with people on the offensive side of the ball that cannot adjust from what they know.
 
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