Is Texas turning purple?
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Thats another attempt at if they say it enough it will become true.
Horn2RunAgain
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As for #2, take a look at the younger blood in the dem party. They don't espouse moderate positions. That's the future of their party
Horn in Corpus
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Chop, this made my day! Literally busted out laughing. I needed that.
WillUSAF
500+ Posts
I can agree with you that it may be a concern. I feel that they are such a small fraction of the party that they, while getting press coverage now, will not be a factor in the long run. They are the new Bernie Sanders of Washington. Bernie, while very flawed, has always stood my his ideology. That being said he has never gotten anything done in Congress. No one wants to work with him. Its the same as the "squad" to me. While there are 4 "women of color" that are ******* insane no one wants to work with them either.
WillUSAF
500+ Posts
Sorry Joe I will try and do better next time
Joe Fan
10,000+ Posts
The left just make stuff up, starts repeating it and then the media accepts it without any questions.
One of their best lines is "that's been fully investigated and discredited"
Both Hillary and Biden have often used this line
But that's all it is, a line
There was usually no investigation at all
It's an auto-response that they puke out reflexively, over and over
An honest media could put an end to it pretty quick but we haven't had an honest media in a long time
WillUSAF
500+ Posts
Boogaloo for one. They have not been accused in the media for burning cities as some left wing groups but they incite violence and they are just as insane as left wingers. This is from Wikipedia:
Since 2019, at least 31 people affiliated with the boogaloo movement have been arrested and five deaths have been publicly linked to boogaloo rhetoric. Some of the charges against people affiliated with the movement include murder,conspiracy to damage and destroy by fire and explosive, possession of unregistered firearms, making a terroristic threat against a peace officer, inciting a riot, aggravated breach of peace, and drugs charges.
There is an active duty Air Force SSgt that is charged with murder in Calif for killing a police officer and he is affiliated with boogaloo.
And I'm not a leftist lol...I just don't watch Fox News and believe all the BS they spew. They are as bad as CNN and MSNBC.
Srsly? Come on man
5 deaths have been linked to Bogaloo RHETORIC.
l(was it an assault rhetoric?)
You point out they have not been accused by the media for burning cities. You know if the media had any chance at all of blaming a right wing organization they would have been 24/7 blasting it.
So with this " credible" wiki info you are admitting your statement about right wing organizationS buring down cities was wrong.
Are there right-wing loons who will do violent acts? Sure but to equate them to what the left wing orgs has is and will do is silly. Yes right wing loons are just as insane but that was not your point
5 deaths have been linked to Bogaloo RHETORIC.
l(was it an assault rhetoric?)You point out they have not been accused by the media for burning cities. You know if the media had any chance at all of blaming a right wing organization they would have been 24/7 blasting it.
So with this " credible" wiki info you are admitting your statement about right wing organizationS buring down cities was wrong.
Are there right-wing loons who will do violent acts? Sure but to equate them to what the left wing orgs has is and will do is silly. Yes right wing loons are just as insane but that was not your point
Is it so uncommon for someone to cast their vote for the candidate they dislike the least?
With the clown show of US politics I would think this might be a regular strategy
WillUSAF
500+ Posts
My point was not that right wing idiots are solely to blame for burning cities. All you did was pick out words from what I said. Read the whole contents of what I said.Srsly? Come on man
5 deaths have been linked to Bogaloo RHETORIC.
You point out they have not been accused by the media for burning cities. You know if the media had any chance at all of blaming a right wing organization they would have been 24/7 blasting it.
So with this " credible" wiki info you are admitting your statement about right wing organizationS buring down cities was wrong.
Are there right-wing loons who will do violent acts? Sure but to equate them to what the left wing orgs has is and will do is silly. Yes right wing loons are just as insane but that was not your point
And you can not tell me that left wing idiots are the only ones in the protests in various cities. If you think that you are naïve. There were right wing morons arrested here in Cleveland for smashing windows of businesses downtown during the Floyd protests.
The wiki example I posted had nothing to do with "burning of cities". I was giving an example of a right wing organization that you say does not exist.
So in closing my POINT was NOT right wing organizations are the only ones burning down cities. That is your Fox News spin on what I said. I was answering a question of Joes on what I thought about coup plotters.
Will
Srsly?? "right wing organization that you say does not exist."
Show me where I said right wing orgs did not exist. Please show me
I am going to post again what you said," Also ALL left wing and right wing organizations that have destroyed cities in "protests"
Not sure how you can see that as anything but you saying left and right wing orgs have destroyed cities.
But keep on waffling. I need some laughs with this game
Srsly?? "right wing organization that you say does not exist.
"Show me where I said right wing orgs did not exist. Please show me
I am going to post again what you said," Also ALL left wing and right wing organizations that have destroyed cities in "protests"
Not sure how you can see that as anything but you saying left and right wing orgs have destroyed cities.
But keep on waffling. I need some laughs with this game
WillUSAF
500+ Posts
You imply. You always do that is your MO. Keep posting it. It has nothing to do with what was being said in the whole quote. Its funny that you hate when libs take Trump comments out of context yet you do it yourself....typicalWill
Srsly?? "right wing organization that you say does not exist.
Show me where I said right wing orgs did not exist. Please show me
I am going to post again what you said," Also ALL left wing and right wing organizations that have destroyed cities in "protests"
Not sure how you can see that as anything but you saying left and right wing orgs have destroyed cities.
But keep on waffling. I need some laughs with this game
WillUSAF
500+ Posts
Oh so its ok for YOU to "dig" but someone calls you out then its NOT ok
Joe Fan
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This is Osita Nwanevu at the New Republic. He is behind the times somewhat as that movement began some time back with Hillary and Soros.
The Constitution Is the Crisis
WillUSAF
500+ Posts
While I do not agree with court packing. I do find it funny that conservatives are calling it a threat on our society. If the shoe was on the other foot you would see the conservatives trying to the same thing or something similar. It is just political rhetoric and being a crybaby from one side. Left wingers think that our society is in jeopardy with the court being more conservative. Conservatives are taking away rights that they hold dear and truly believe in. If the court were left leaning conservatives would be screaming our society is jeopardy also. They would be screaming that we are going to become a socialist or communist society and our Constitution will be ruined. Its sad that there is so much discourse in this country...This is Osita Nwanevu at the New Republic. He is behind the times somewhat as that movement began some time back with Hillary and Soros.
The Constitution Is the Crisis
Joe Fan
10,000+ Posts
Give us an instance when Republicans have tried to pack the Court. It should be easy to do if it happens as often as you claim
We have been screaming that for awhile now. And it's true
The cited article is precisely that - it is the Left arguing to replace the Constitution.
I sometimes wonder how you guys were able to get through enough of the SAT to be allowed to matriculate into UT with reading comprehension skills that poor
WillUSAF
500+ Posts
Joe...I never said that the Republicans have tried to pack the courts. If you read what I said (reading comprehension) I stated that Conservatives would do the same thing OR something SIMILAR.
And your second point. This is 1 article that a "journalist" wrote. As I stated in my response it is all rhetoric. If you believe what every far leaning person (whether right or left) says then this country would be in full anarchy and civil war.
And if you have a problem with me being a Longhorn you take it up with the university. They made the mistake not me
And your second point. This is 1 article that a "journalist" wrote. As I stated in my response it is all rhetoric. If you believe what every far leaning person (whether right or left) says then this country would be in full anarchy and civil war.
And if you have a problem with me being a Longhorn you take it up with the university. They made the mistake not me
Joe Fan
10,000+ Posts
So the evidence of that resides inside your noggin?
It's much more than that. And I have laid it all out in the past citing Open Society (Soros) records (even with video I think). They had a plan, which hinged on Hillary winning (I am not sure they considered the possibility that she wouldnt). Please feel free to go dumpster diving for that material -- it's back there somewhere in time.
WillUSAF
500+ Posts
That and its politics 101
You're getting over your skis here, Bro. Here's the problem with your logic. The Supreme Court has been largely hostile to cultural conservatives for all of my lifetime, all of my parents' lifetime, and certainly the entire adult lives of my grandparents - basically since the mid to late 1930s. If anyone could have reasonably been tempted to pack the Court, it has been social conservatives. However, when Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, and Trump have been President (and therefore would have had the power to appoint justices), I don't remember any significant effort from the Right to pack the Court. In fact, I've never heard any conservative speak of it in anything but overwhelmingly negative terms - even when they've had the power to do it.
For the first time since the mid to late 1930s, the cultural Left is looking at the prospect of having a Court that at least isn't willing to tip the scales of justice in their favor. They might actually think that "equal protection" applies to everybody (meaning no affirmative action and no racially segregating "safe spaces"). They might think that "interstate commerce" will actually require that there be commerce and that it be interstate in nature before the federal government can act under the interstate commerce clause. They might look at the Constitution, see no mention or even hint at abortion (specifically or generally) and therefore no basis to disrupt the general jurisdiction of state governments (and therefore overturn Roe). In the face of losing their power over the judiciary for the first time in 3 generations, the Left is willing to completely eliminate the legitimacy of the federals courts. That's really bad. Like I said before, it was enough to make me overlook all the stupid Tweets from the toilet, all the deficit spending, all the rhetorical sloppiness and chaos, "the wall," all the toxicity on our brand, etc. and eat the turd sandwich.
And like I mentioned to NJLonghorn, the Right has FAR more to lose by not controlling the Court than the Left does, because the conservative justices largely respect states rights on social issues. If the Right takes over the Court, social leftists have to retreat to their state capitols to force their agenda, but they can still force their agenda. They just don't get to be busybodies anymore and force one-size-fits-all policy against the will of people in other states from an unelected branch of government. If the Left takes over the Court, social conservatives are completely ******. They have no remedy anywhere. So they actually have much greater cause to pack the Court. In spite of that, they've never threatened to do so.
So would the Right pack the Court? Almost certainly not. Now, if the Left does it this time, will they the next time they gain power? Oh, hell yes. They'd be stupid not to.
Joe Fan
10,000+ Posts
My 2 cents. The Court as a whole has avoided the EP clause of the 5th and 14th. It's been a tool of convenience for them, but it's left a giant gaping hole that will some day have to be reconciled. For example, how can you ever square Baake and its progeny with the EPC? I say it's impossible. So they just ignore it, as if it does not exist. This is wrong and always has been.
I would prefer the push to deal with it to start from my side. The idea being that we can properly frame the issues. There has been some dicta (Scalia) and a footnote (Thomas) about it, but not much else from any individual Supreme. I say this time period is as good as any to whip it out, front and center.
Joe Fan
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Joe Fan
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The Equal Protection Clause
Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
This has multiple meanings, of course, but it is impossible to square any govt-mandated affirmative action decree, whether the language, intent or effect, with this express, written provision of the Constitution. So they dont even try. They just pretend it's not there.
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