Iran to U.S.: All your UAV are belong to us

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The news is already a few days old, but wondering how much technology was compromised by Iran's downing and/or recovery of a RQ-170 Sentinel UAV. This is the same type that supposedly gathered intel for the Osama bin Laden raid in Pakistan.
 
It seems this was bound to happen given the fact that Iran has a better air defense than other nations in the area like Afghanistan and Iraq. Fly enough drone missions and your bound to lose 1 or 2 in the process.
 
I was wondering when someone would post about this on hornfans. Very ho hum everyone seems to be about it.....

People need to realize that Iran is not Afganistan or Iraq. Every Iranian I know here in the US is a doctor or engineer. They have excellent public education and those that come to the US know more than American kids know academically.

They arent cavemen over there. The idea that it is preposterous that they could have found a way to hack this thing and bring it down is naive. Iran has a lot of very smart people in it.

The US is further ahead of Iran technology wise, but they will be able to reverse engineer this thing. What it will lead to? Probably not a lot in my opinion.
 
Do you mean Iran thinks our spying on them is an act of war, or that their hacking our drone should be considered an act of war by the us?
Technology is never going to stay secret very long. This drone will be studied, then probably sold to China or Russia, and there will be similar drones for sale in WalMart pretty soon.
 
Really Roger? The US violating their airspace on a regular basis is an act of war. The CIA for decades trying to foment internal strife and interfering with their politics should be an act of war.

Just the fact that the US had a military aircraft flying over Iran is in itself an act of war. If Iran flew a drone over Austin, I suspect you would feel violated.

We fly planes over their airspace and they have every right to shoot them down or bring them down.
 
Roger,

You have no problem with violating other countries' airspace? Your arrogance is, to steal a line from RG3, unbelievably believable.
 
From different articles I've read, it's possible that China may have provided technical assistance to Iran in bringing the UAV down.

Possibility #1: China knew of a Trojan "back door" on Chinese-made microchips that may have been incorporated into the RQ-170.
The Great Chinese-Iranian Stealth Reconnaissance Drone Theft Caper

Possibility #2: China used an existing virus to gain control (or deny U.S. operators control) of the UAV.
Exclusive: Computer Virus Hits U.S. Drone Fleet

A third possibility is that Iran simply jammed (overpowered) the weak GPS signal and communication frequencies used to guide and control the drone and that some type of UAV auto-land or auto-crash protocol was triggered.

Another possibility is that the UAV suffered a random malfunction that caused it to lose power or control.

No matter what the cause, if the Pentagon can't be assured of positive control over its growing fleet of remotely piloted (and increasingly armed) UAVs, it's not a good situation that gives you the warm fuzzies at night.
 
Oh I see Roger. So rogue nations that the US gives billions to and that the US supports via dictator thugs are alright and dont count in your book right? Surely you are aware of our track record in that department.

We wouldnt fly over Egypt because we were giving Mubarak billions, and we wouldnt fly over Iraq when Saddam invaded Iran during the 80s right? And we wont fly over Saudi Arabia because they are a democracy right?
 
They denied our request to return the drone. It would seem to me the next move will be to hit it with a cruise missile. I pity the dude that's assigned to guard it.
 
So Iran, yeah we violated your airspace and were spying on you, but lets be friends and return our drone.

Give me a break. If Iran was flying a spy drone over DC, would we give it back if we captured it? So why would we expect anything different?
 
Can we have our drone back????

I'm sorry but if we're going to do things like fly drones with valuable technology over Iran to spy on them, we need to have contingency plans for what to do if something goes wrong. Asking a country for a piece of spy equipment back sounds like something from an SNL skit. If this equipment is as valuable as it appears to be, we should be ready, on a moment's notice, to retrieve it or blow it the F up.

Didn't something similar happen with the stealth helicopter in Pakistan? If we're going to violate another country's airspace per espionage or whatever excuse is given, we should take the step of rescuing or destroying the equipment if it falls into the wrong hands.
 
A'sD,

Sadly, when the Shah was in power, a lot of things were ok with Iran, because he was our puppet. The US Government has no morality. All that matters is who has allegiance and is willing to join forces.

When Saddam gassed his own people, we looked the other way. Its very simple. What can you do for me politically. This is why most Americans are complete idiots. They buy into the flag waving patriotism nonsense that is spewed about. They just dont understand or want to believe that our country is run by a bunch of crooks who will wrap themselves in the flag in order to make themselves look good.
 
Roger35, I'm so proud of you for defending your country.
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But, 03 makes a point. If, we were in their airspace, they have every right to shoot it down. Who are we to tell another country, what they can't have. I'm not America bashing, like 03, but it's time for us to back off trying to police the world. As long as we are selling guns/drugs, laundering drug money and supporting dictatorships, we dont' have much room to talk.(can't believe I said that)
 
2003 grad seems like you dislike it here, I guess you are of the male persuasion, so you would do ok in Iran. We may have crooks running our country, but their our crooks. Iran has insane people running their ship, go join them.
 
Why wasn't there a failsafe device? If the machine lost contact with the U.S. controllers, it should have a device onboard to fry its own circuits into kibbles and bits instantaneously. How hard would that be?
Or better yet, we could just have The Failsafe Device.
 
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