Inside Job

i have been dead for more than 4 months now..

it's not so bad, but honestly, i thought heaven would be better.
 
It was the Tea Party!!!! Sarah Palin did it, I saw it!!!!!
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I saw her do it too from my house in Russia
 
HP, you are usually one of the most reasoned posters on this board, but I do think the JFK assassination does matter even today.

While I cannot directly prove who killed Kennedy, the fact that most everyone in power at that time is dead or will be soon isnt that important. Since when did inevitable death ever stop anyone from committing crimes or being corrupt? It is always about what you can get now, and I would say that those responsible (I do believe that LBJ had a large role in it, as well as the CIA, or people within) are also interested the accumulation of power for the next generation, whoever they may be, to maintain the status quo of power.

Also, why does there have to be a leak? Im not so sure that leaks are inevitable in every case. I dont work in the spy industry or the hitman industry or engage in international espianoge, so perhaps someone who does can fill us all in.

I think there are plenty of issues concerning 911 that dont make any sense or are highly suspicious, but most people want to just go with what they see on CNN or FOX, the most simple and straightforward explanations. I dont think everything is simple and straightforward.

The whole idea of a conspiracy is that multiple people conspire, work together, to accomplish something. Its not suppose to be simple and easy. Conspiracies happen all the time, they arent theories or stories, they are actual activities. Some are more successful than others obviously, but the stigma that has been created around the concept of conspiracy has jumped the shark. Every covert government or military action is a conspiracy, as is every bank robbery that includes more than 1 person.

I dont believe that it took an army of hundreds to assassinate JFK. I dont believe that it had to be all that complicated. Does it dominate my thoughts and my life, no. I dont believe that it was just a crazy ex spy in Oswalt however who just decided to kill the president.

Oswalt was engaged in covert operations in New Orleans working for the US to assassinate Castro leading up to the JFK shooting, so he was definitely still working for the US government at that time. There is a connection there.

What does this all mean today? Lord knows there is plenty of corruption going on now, so I can appreciate not caring so much about the JFK assassination, but I do think it is relevant. That wasnt even 50 years ago.
 
I can't believe we're wasting precious bandwidth on this subject when we could be trying to figure out what the Mayan Calendar says about flooding the Mississippi River and causing the collapse of civilization leading up to the earth's inevitable destruction by that space ship Farrakhan says is hovering over the planet.
 
HP, I agree with the majority of what you said in your reply.

I dont want to nitpick, but I do agree that the media and certain government officials will take full opportunity to point out and ridicule certain conspiracy views and make them the flag bearers of all other conspiracy views, even when the other views are much more prominent or plausible. A good example is the Popular Mechanics book on debunking 911 myths. Its a nice little book that does a good job of slamming certain 911 conspiracy theories, but if you read "Debunking 911 Debunking," by David Ray Griffin, he gives such a voluminous refutation of the PM book that it realy makes the PM writers look like school children.

Concerning JFK, I dont think it would have to be massive. Do I specifically know what the details would be? No. But it wouldnt have to involve a huge amount of people.

I have personally watched all 9 episodes of the documentary series that this youtube clips is taken from, and it is pretty extraordinary. Did you know that episodes 7-9 were aired only once, and that the History Channel has refused to ever air them again? They even released for public consumption the first 6 episodes in a set you can buy, but they wont release 7-9. Ive seen 7-9 only because I came across a burned DVD that someone recorded off their VCR when they aired the one and only time the History Channel chose to show them. Because the History Channel owns the rights to the series, the only way you can see any of 7-9 is if you come across a copy someone made off their VCR of the broadcast, or if someone happens to post some of the video on youtube. Its quite disturbing to be honest.

The reason why I think it is important to look at these kinds of past events is because at one point in time they were current. The nature of corruption never changes. Everything that is happening today that you admonish, and that I do as well, will one day become past events.

Time slowly has made other events blurred in the past, but I don't think we should merely bury them under the rug because they are no longer current.

Again, we should look at what is happening today, but you would have to agree that when you see what is being reported in the Middle East today and what our elected politicians are saying about it, there is blatant misrepresentation that is constantly proliferated. What is going to change this? Is the media being responsible about it? How can we do something to make changes so that current events dont end up becoming past events that no one cares about, because they are in the past?
 
i think the evidence supports oswald as a lone gunman. he tried killing a texas legislator months before but failed (shot into his house). he seemed hell bent on becoming a political assassin.
that said, i find nothing wrong with people pursuing the truth. i think it would be both relevant and important if someone figured out that there really was a conspiracy. i don't see how that can happen at this point, though. just as there are models and claims that support a conspiracy theory there are plenty that finger oswalt acting alone.
 
I'm just shocked that A'sD can even get comunication from his solid hideout bunker, given the fact that last summer he said we would all be dead by Christmas and that the gulf of mexico would start killing people.

When is the world going to end this time A'sD? Are you heading for the hills next year on 12/21/12?
 
HP,

We see eye to eye on the big picture, but I will have to respectfully disagree concerning 911 and to a lesser extent JFK. I do think both events are very relevant because they contributed to the big picture. Concerning David Ray Griffin, while I havent read all of his books, he is a very well reasoned and intelligent person, and certainly not a "character." There are several videos on youtube I would encourage people to watch of him speaking, and he is very well thought out and reasoned in his positions. Does that mean that everything Griffin says must be 100% true? I dont think so, but he more than adequately addresses everything Popular Mechanics brings to the table with considerably more depth. Id encourage people to buy both books and to read them and compare.

To your point about the knowledge we have about what our administrations are doing and what they have done, what do you see being done about it now? Are people truly aware of it? I would argue that most people are in the clouds. What will it take for people to become aware? We can talk all day about current events and hypocrasies but when you turn on the news, where the hell is it? Its not there, or if it is, its so well packaged and delivered to the masses that its basically lost in translation.

It is true that most Americans always say, "How could our government murder 3000 of its own citizens?" The simple answer is that governments around the world have killed millions of their own citizens. What makes anyone think that our government is any more angelic than those? Power corrupts. The USA is no different than any other country in that regard. Our politicians are not somehow immune to the corruption and evil that has plagued other politicians and
leaders throughout history. To believe so is to be naive.
 
I'm always afraid to click on any links A's provides because the ones I've seen always look like they're a spyware trap waiting to be sprung...

But since we're already dead, guess it doesn't matter. And the good thing for A's is that since we're already dead (and him as well), he doesn't have to respond to his continual streak of being wrong about everything.
 
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