Insanity, thy name is public education

Horn6721 said:
Interesting and I agree with that because I think the disrespect was unconscionable. But I am loathe to take away a person's right to express a wrong opinion
So how does being on gov't propery change things. People can protest at the capitiol and wh
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It isn't because it's government. It's because it's military.
 
I really agree with the criticisms. I just feel people who not in the military but only married to or child of a military still have a right to have an unpopular position.
 
Horn6721 said:
I really agree with the criticisms. I just feel people who not in the military but only married to or child of a military still have a right to have an unpopular position.
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They do but not on base. I'm a DoD dependent. If I want to go to a Gaza rally in Birmingham and scream about Jews deserving to die, I can do that, but I can't go do it on RAF Lakenheath.

Either way, their military sponsor could get his *** torn by his superiors and told to get his woman or his dumba$$ kid in line.
 
Lol removing gayporn from kindergarten violates New York's "Dignity Act"
Because nothing is more dignified than gay men running around naked with whips.
 
Horn6721 said:
BOSD you may not be aware but private schools are governed by the Texas Private School Accreditation Commission which has standards that sometimes exceed TEA
Hardly renegade schools making it up as they go along.
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Governance isn't much a yardstick for this. That accreditation entity uses 19 other accrediting standards each with their own criteria. That doesn't feel like much of a "standard" when there are 19 flavors of it.

Outcomes are how they should be judged and almost all of the disparity in outcomes comes down to the fact that most private school kids come from homes that already have college graduates and money. Throwing $10K per student is barely going to move the needle in terms of getting new kids access to a private school. Most private schools that excel are in excess of $20k with the top tier ones going into the hi-30's.

There is really only one good reason to do this: We will get better outcomes for substantially more kids in Texas. If it fails to do this, then it is a crap exercise.
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
I vote against all school bonds. I am yet to see one single bond in the last 25 years in my area that is not mostly tied to athletic facility funding. I grew up playing sports, but I can not stand the absolute waste on extravagant facilities. I think Texas should pass a law that all athletic bonds must be separate from academic facility bonds. I'm sick of the "you must not love the kids" crowd.
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I'm 100% on board with this. I went to school in E. Texas at a place that we didn't even have an actual track to train on. We literally practiced the 400 by running in the dirt. Our football stadium/field had dirt parking lots. The idea that we need multi-million dollar stadiums to accommodate the crowds for 4 Friday games per year is ridiculous.

I would also be on board with a substantial RE developer tax that builds in enough funding to pay for the new schools necessary to accommodate the growth. The new people are the reason most of the new schools are needed. They should bare more of the cost of that growth.
 
HS I attended in El Paso was new when I went and we too ran track workouts and did our football conditioning running in the desert. We also picked rocks off our infield before every baseball practice and had only spots of grass in the infield and outfield. Yeah ‘bad’ hops were prevalent. Several dads helped the coaches put up a wooden bench behind a short chain link fence for our excuse for dugouts. All of us also contributed the labor to erect the outfield fence, a gorgeous 6 foot high chain link. So yeah, the crudgemudgen in me begrudges continuing to be required to pay school taxes after sending my 5 kids through public school now being 12 years retired and helping my grandkids with college costs. Enough already.
Oh yeah, should mention I graduated HS 60 years ago.
 
BrntOrngStmpeDe said:
Outcomes are how they should be judged and almost all of the disparity in outcomes comes down to the fact that most private school kids come from homes that already have college graduates and money. Throwing $10K per student is barely going to move the needle in terms of getting new kids access to a private school. Most private schools that excel are in excess of $20k with the top tier ones going into the hi-30's.
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Just let the reform measure play out. See what changes need to be made.

I think the biggest improvement from a school choice system would be for the government schools. They will have to compete for students like they never have before. They will be much more efficient with money and hold bad schools to much more accountability. They probably discipline bad acting students more too, just like in the good ole days.

The vouchers can also be used for home schools which are much cheaper than private schools and give parents even more control over their children's education.
 
Monahorns said:
Just let the reform measure play out. See what changes need to be made.

I think the biggest improvement from a school choice system would be for the government schools. They will have to compete for students like they never have before. They will be much more efficient with money and hold bad schools to much more accountability. They probably discipline bad acting students more too, just like in the good ole days.

The vouchers can also be used for home schools which are much cheaper than private schools and give parents even more control over their children's education.
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The proof is in the pudding. Looks like it is a done deal. Abbott will pay a heavy price if this doesn't have the desired outcome. He twisted a lot of arms and created a lot of bad blood with pushing this so hard.
 
This hit my feed today....Harvard ed

The article mostly talks about how we are still not regaining ground in kids scores. Couple of things that I noticed that the left never likes to admit.

1. Paying instructors for outcomes typically does produce better results.
2. Giving blanket raises to all teachers across the district does not typically produce any different outcomes
3. We can measure kids performance pretty well each year. Enough to draw a conclusion that on average we " are1/2 year behind" in reading.

I doubt very seriously the folks at Harvard intended to support the conservative view, but this article, IMO, is another data point that says ....

1. We can (and should) be testing/measuring kids progress in the 4 major areas that are critical in today's world (Math, reading, writing, science) every year.
2. Those tests can be dialed in enough to get a pretty reasonable estimate of a kids attainment down to 1/4 year levels.
3. Almost every profession in the world, INCLUDING TEACHERS, performs better when there is a financial incentive tied to the outcome. So teacher pay should at least in part, have some sort of performance component to it.

If I'm a 3rd grade teacher and my students enter the year with scores that indicate they are at a level of grade 2 & 3/4, then as a 3rd grade teacher I should at least be able to get those same students to score at grade 3 & 3/4 by the end of the year. If I achieve that then I'm "satisfactory". If I exceed it, I get a bonus.
 
Mr. Deez said:
You better make sure those kids see d1cks, or you could be in trouble in New York.

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Check out the % of eligible voters who actually voted in their school board election.

They should run and vote in a new school board. That's what they should do.
 
Chop said:
Check out the % of eligible voters who actually voted in their school board election.

They should run and vote in a new school board. That's what they should do.
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That would help, but it sounds like a lot of this is because of state law. Lunatics are running NY.
 
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