Impeachment

Pray tell how Ukraine would ave been saved by a Trump presidency?

He probably would have listened to what Putin was saying and worked with him on stated interests, much like he did with Kim Jung Un. Also, Trump and Zelensky weren't as chummy as Zelensky and Biden. He couldn't have relied on US aid as certainly. That would have motivated Zelensky to take negotiation more seriously.
 
I do wonder why Putin didn't do this between 2015 - 2021. Settling down Crimea might explain 2015. Trump very well explains the middle four years. Prepping for the invasion might explain 2021. By extension, makes me wonder if Putin would have waited for 2025 had Trump been reelected.
 
He probably would have listened to what Putin was saying and worked with him on stated interests, much like he did with Kim Jung Un. Also, Trump and Zelensky weren't as chummy as Zelensky and Biden. He couldn't have relied on US aid as certainly. That would have motivated Zelensky to take negotiation more seriously.
Since Trump trusted Putin over our intelligence agencies, I have no doubt he would "work with" Putin. It would be like this: Ben! nice to meet you!
 
Bubba
You mean the Intelligence people like the ones who admitted on NBC that
"It doesn't have to be solid intelligence when We talk about it. It's preventative ".
 
Since Trump trusted Putin over our intelligence agencies, I have no doubt he would "work with" Putin. It would be like this: Ben! nice to meet you!

Yeah. It is better to listen to what a person says than what others say a person says. That is a rule for your whole life.

Remember intelligence agencies are based on lies. Putin lies too. I get it. But you deal with people based on their word. Then if you prove the lie you hammer them.
 
After the crap the intelligence agencies did to Trump can you blame him for not trusting them?

Garmel, we should trust intelligence agencies like the FBI. They would never entrap citizens in a scheme for the purpose of making said citizens guilty of a felony. Right?
 
I would respect this guy if he was fighting on the front lines but alas he is nothing but a hand job:

 
I would respect this guy if he was fighting on the front lines but alas he is nothing but a hand job:



With respect to Ukraine, I'm probably closer to Vindman than to Tracey. However, I find it interesting that many of the same people who said it wasn't ok to question the patriotism of people who opposed the Iraq War even if they routinely bashed the United States are now so quick to question the loyalty of anyone who questions any facet of American foreign policy.

And yes, he could sue Vindman for defamation. It might be hard to find a lawyer to take the case on a contingent fee basis because Vindman is likely judgment proof, but he could sue him.
 
Have to read comments but is getting paid by far left groups.
Oh okay I read them but thought there was something beyond that.

Anyone with a brain knew when he "testified" that HE writes the script and Trump went off script, he was nothing but a cry baby. Feelings were hurt, and here we are today.
 
I agree with hic
Vindman is a pos
But what is he doing or saying now?
Taking money from political groups. Impeachment is supposed to be more than just politically driven. In fact he is proving that Trump was right all along about the motives of the impeachment. Vindman is basically knee capping all those who wished the charges were true and virtuous and supported the impeachment. Now he has made them look like fools.
 
mc
Thanks.
I just must have missed the Vindman tweet where he did that.
The only tweet I saw from Vindman recently was the one where he snarked at Musk for buying twitter.
What did Vindman say that exposed impeachment?
 
Way too much vague **** talk in the thread. Can you tell us what he did? I also googled and saw nothing.
The premise is that Vidman is now part of a Lincoln Project type of outfit, but hopefully without the gay intern rape.
 

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