Impeachment
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Their beneficiaries are adding up:
1) Reparations
2) Illegal aliens (open border package)
3) Student loan debt forgiveness
4) Medicare for all
5) Socialism as a catch-all TBD.
The defense against any dissent is to accuse the dissenter of either being a racist or heartless. The economic impact is not to be considered.
Monahorns
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No, but what Spain taught the US was to use camps as a why to wage war against irregular forces, i.e. guerilla warfare. Spain used that in Cuba to try to isolate fighters from the populace which supported them generally. The US did that against the Filipinos after the US "freed" them from Spain but didn't leave them to be free.
The US also did some of that against the Plains Indians. So it did predate the Spanish American war stuff a bit. There is was all ethnic or national affiliation. Not so good either.
But your point in the 2nd paragraph still stands. The Spanish and Americans didn't intend to kill all the people in the camps. The intention was to feed and house them until after the war was over. With the Indians the camps were not so concentrated and the intention was to change to pacify them.
The Nazis wanted Jews out of Germany one way of another. The Soviets weren't as efficient or as precise. They just wanted kulaks and capitalists out of their country too. They sent them to Siberia to hard labor with no real provisions of food or shelter. They sent some things, but not enough to sustain life. The idea is that they would all die working for the revolution. Those that didn't had ties to organized crime or produced food of their own and built their own shelter. Gulags were intended death camps.
Joe Fan
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I35 and I are correct. Between the transcript and Zelnsky saying there was no quid pro quo that should have been the end of it.
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OUBubba
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Where is that rest button when you need it?
Musbergerbis gonna love this.
OUBubba
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Put DJT under oath and see what happens. He can’t tell the truth about his bowel movements let alone real facts.
OUBubba
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Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
I35
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I’m okay looking into all politicians. But it gets to the point the credibility is shot when the accusers serve nothing but nothing burgers every time. Mueller looked into Trump for two years and nothing. It gets pretty obvious when it’s turned into a political game. It seems pretty obvious to most of America anyway.
So it was cool for Clinton to lie because Trump presumably would lie? This is the problem with politics.
Doesn't look good. Maybe it'll be enough to get the Senate to do the House's work for them. Weird that the House didn't give a **** when the matter was in their domain.
That's just it:
"We know he did it we just can't prove it."
"He would do the same thing."
This kind of rationalization is killing us...
Joe Fan
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Lev Parnas is just Michael Avenatti with more gold chains. He is trying to pull a Michael Cohen and get a lighter sentence or easier prison. The Rs should simply say "OK, that weirdo can testify, but we get Brennan, Clapper, the Whistleblower and Schiff"
Joe Fan
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He said bye already
And yet this same guy criticized Republicans for investigating Clinton. The reality is that both Clinton and Trump did things that warranted investigation. And he claims they found "jack squat" (presumably referring to Whitewater), and after a few dead witnesses, lots of shredded documents, and another witness who went to jail for contempt to keep from testifying, sure enough, they didn't find jack squat.
Joe Fan
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Coulter today on impeachment -- in which she was involved although didnt get much recognition for
IMPEACHMENT: DO REPUBLICANS HAVE MORE FUN?
January 15, 2020
IMPEACHMENT: DO REPUBLICANS HAVE MORE FUN?
January 15, 2020
"Impeachments aren’t what they used to be. Today, young people are supposed to be excited that the president withheld taxpayer money from Ukraine –- a half-billion-dollar foreign aid package that ticks off most Americans under any circumstances, going to a country notable for not being our country, and for a purpose other than the wall.
Now, Bill Clinton –- that was an impeachment
!
First, there was the corpus delicti of the case -- a White House intern, Monica Lewinsky, earning her “presidential kneepads” by sexually servicing the president.
The telephonic evidence wasn’t about “Burisma Holdings Limited” or a Ukrainian prosecutor whose name no one can remember. It was tapes of Monica blathering on and on about servicing the president, including such fascinating items as:
-- Clinton couldn’t remember Monica’s name after their first two sexual encounters;
-- Monica’s suggestion to Clinton that she be named “assistant to the president for b--- jobs"; ..."
January 15, 2020 - IMPEACHMENT: DO REPUBLICANS HAVE MORE FUN?Now, Bill Clinton –- that was an impeachment
First, there was the corpus delicti of the case -- a White House intern, Monica Lewinsky, earning her “presidential kneepads” by sexually servicing the president.
The telephonic evidence wasn’t about “Burisma Holdings Limited” or a Ukrainian prosecutor whose name no one can remember. It was tapes of Monica blathering on and on about servicing the president, including such fascinating items as:
-- Clinton couldn’t remember Monica’s name after their first two sexual encounters;
-- Monica’s suggestion to Clinton that she be named “assistant to the president for b--- jobs"; ..."
Joe Fan
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I35
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Let me make sure I understand we are talking about the same thing here. I didn’t read all above to get the context. When you say things, are you talking about the phone call with the Ukraine leader? If so, Trump released the phone call transcript (which should have been the end of it) but let the Dems continue to play their silly *** games with the clown show where no witnesses that were there or none had any information except assumptions (witnesses words).
If the transcript didn’t end it, then the witnesses with no facts should have. But they voted to Impeach anyway and send it to the senate where they then played games with the articles of impeachment by holding on to it to try to persuade the Senate to continue their clown show.
If you are talking about something totally different then let me know and I’ll go back and read it all.
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I35
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That’s exactly what they do. They go investigate without a crime and go fishing in hopes to find something. They have no idea where it will go when they start as long as they are playing offense. It’s just a distraction
We know the Left would have shrieked to high heaven if the same scenario existed for Trump or any other Republican President.
Kind of reminds me of Barry Bonds trainer who spent time in jail because he refused to testify. Later then Bonds and his attorney's acted like he was exonerated....
When it is clear that the platform is only cries of racism/white supremacy along with vote buying schemes (reparations, de facto open borders with benefits and sanctuary, student debt forgiveness, green justice and socialism as a catch-all) then they must continue to beat the drum of Trump's bribery/treason because nothing else will get a moderate or a true conservative to vote Liberal on all their hyperbolic social demands.
Maxine Waters: ‘I believe’ Trump-Putin conspiracy ‘even though I don’t have the facts to prove it’
OUBubba
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There needs to be a sad icon that I can select.
OUBubba
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You mean like roger stone? And all the others who refuse to testify?
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