Herman 'Back of the Bus' Cain

Perham1

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Looks like Mr. Herman Cain is the GOP's kind of candidate after all.

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Didn't want to get in trouble for sticking up for blacks' rights. Check.

Putting the blame for his inaction on his father, making any criticism of his inaction more difficult. Check.

"Misremembering" his age and saying that, as a high-schooler, it wasn't "prudent" (channeling GHWB?) for him to get involved, when in fact he was in college for much of this time. Check.

Again playing the "family card" and using as an excuse a "sick relative" when no mention of said relative was in his book. Check.

Thank God Rosa Parks had more balls then Herman Cain.
 
Wow, our ecomony is going down the toilet because of our Community Organizer and you are wanting to point out something that happened in 1960 or so when Cain was about 17 years old? Seriously? Cain must be a racist against his own people.
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I would suspect Herman Cain is probably more related to Rosa Parks than wanna be dictator Obama, whose ancestors had more to do with failing to stand up for "Blacks' rights" than Herman Cain's.
 
Shucks guess I can't vote for Cain now.
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I assume you are aware enough to know that Cain's father wasn't the only one telling his child to avoid the trouble. His father understood that it could be a life or death situation. There were plenty of blacks that didn't protest during the civil rights marches for whatever reason. But, they still had to live through that era.

And regardless of whether he was protesting or not, he still grew up in the south during a time when just being black could be a death warrant. And he went to do things that many thought never possible. So he may not have been a Rosa Parks, but he has done nothing to be a discredit to his race. He has been a pioneer in other ways.

As a kid, I used to always say that I would have never lived during those times, because I would have been too defiant. I'm old enough now to just be grateful, I didn't have to. Because, you never know what it's like until you walk in a man's shoes.
 
I look at Herman Cain as one who instead of bitching and moaning he just went out and did it!!! Barriers be damned, he just broke them down with good old fashioned hard work!!!
 
Perham, if you really knew anything about what went on during that time, you would know how ignorant you sound. But, then again you probably do and just don't care. You're just baffled because ole Herman doesn't want to live on your plantation.

So according to you all those blacks, who for years complied with Jim Crow are somehow less? Or is it only the conservative ones? Yeah, we know the answer to that.

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So according to you all those blacks, who for years complied with Jim Crow are somehow less?

You really don't seem to be grasping the issue at all, do you?
 
Brotha, you seem to be insistent on making this something it is not, trying to parlay this into some kind of overarching indictment of all blacks on a personal level.

Just go back and read what I have written, then to what you wrote:

So according to you ALL those blacks, who for years complied with Jim Crow are somehow less?

I am not saying anything about "ALL those blacks". That is what you are trying to do. Why? My comments have been specific to just one person: Herman Cain. Yet you are extrapolating this to cover the entire black race who sat by during the 60s. Why? So you can create your straw man and rant and rave? Why don't you at least give an honest effort to keep on point here?

The issue is thus:

1. Cain chose not to partake in supporting civil rights.

2. This choice makes him more palatable to the GOP.

3. The GOP is blind to this and furthermore, thinks that Mr. Cain just nutted up and "did it", as if he "did it" in a vacuum. But then, the GOP never has really bothered to learn the reality of race in America.

Mischaracterizing my argument doesn't help things.
 
The above is less logic than it is an observation of current GOP sentiments.

To criticize logic one must be able to distinguish "logic" from such societal observations. That you cannot even understand what logic is makes you a poor choice to criticize the use and application of logic.

But, to dumb this down to a level you can understand, which black man do you think would be more palatable to the GOP?

A. The man who did not partake in 60s civil rights demonstrations, as in Herman Cain.

B. The man who was active in civil rights.

The answer, to those of us without the word "ag" in our handle, seems to be quite easy.
 
As I have already said, but apparently the above poster needs it to be repeated: my conclusion is based on observation, and as such is not driven by logic. Y'all really need to learn what logic is, and isn't, because you're failing right now at it.

When has the GOP embraced black men who were active in the civil rights? And if you identify some (or even one), that still is not my argument.

My argument is that Cain's lack of civil rights activity makes him more palatable (and for the short-bus people, please re-read the mini-explanation on logic above) to the GOP than if he had been active. Why is this A) so hard to understand, and B) so hard to accept?

The game plan isn't that hard (unless you have "ag" in your handle, or "bronc"): to be active in the civil rights fight meant you were fighting "The Man". Who is "The Man"? Mostly the GOP.

Does the level of political ignorance on this board really extend so far that this is a foreign concept?

I can tell that at least two posters have no idea what logic is, so I guess I'm asking about the others.
 
Herman Cain did things nobody had ever done before, he has reached corporate heights not because someone gave something to him because he went out and did it, proved himself. He didn't need anybodies help, permission or right of passage.

Road the back of Rosa Parks, if you want to talk about riding the back of Rosa Parks go no further then Barack Obama!!!
 
Blind to what? The fact that the man worked his *** off ....

Blind to the fact that the Rosa Parks of the world made it possible for a black man like Cain to succeed. Plenty of blacks worked their "*** off" pre-Rosa. Where did it get them? You seem to be under the delusion that the opportunity availed by Ms. Parks et al just magically appeared. It would behoove you to study your US history.


You got a problem with 9-9-9, fine


What are you talking about? Are you again inartfully attempting to confuse the issue?

I have said nothing about 9-9-9.

In all honesty, though, I prefer FO, FO, FO.
 
Herman Cain did things nobody had ever done before, he has reached corporate heights not because someone gave something to him because he went out and did it, proved himself. He didn't need anybodies help, permission or right of passage.

Road the back of Rosa Parks, if you want to talk about riding the back of Rosa Parks go no further then Barack Obama!!!


Lol, Yes, "road" the back of Rosa.

You must be a southern Republican.
 
Well let me put it in words you will understand. Your conclusion based on observation is ********. Typical liberal/progressive ********. I already figured you out, there was no logic there. But Iwas hoping to at least give you a different viewpoint.

When have black men who were active in civil rights, embraced the GOP? It is a two way street. There are/were plenty of black republicans, who were around during that time. But as you have already pointed out, you don't care. The purpose of the thread was to show your liberal prejudice. Because you THINK you know something.

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Your conclusion based on observation is ********.

Really?

Because the current day GOP/Teaparty is just a haven for, not only blacks, but blacks active (then and now) in the civil rights movement?

The willful ignorance, denial, and self-deception exhibited here reminds me of "What's the Matter with Kansas" (documentary) where people also showed they were not able to interpret political reality.

But I am interested in your data showing my conclusion to be wrong.
 
When have black men who were active in civil rights, embraced the GOP? It is a two way street.

I get it. It's the blacks' fault for not embracing the GOP.

The only thing you left out of that statement was "don't forget to tip the waitstaff."
 

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