heckuva speech, Trumpy

Garmel said:
It still perplexes the hell out of me that people can't see what happened on election night. I don't know how we've conditioned people to believe that election fraud is some kind of conspiracy theory when we've had massive election cheating even before the Tammany Hall days.
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When one party owns the media and uses it to get their candidates elected, the other side sees it as cheating and unfair. Just look at the Hunter Biden cover up and suppression by the media. It wasn't just about voter fraud, it was about the highjacking of our election system. And the DNC has done a great job of creating the talking point of, "there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud."
 
Monahorns said:
How many hoaxes does that make that you have fallen for?
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Let's wait and see. So, you're telling me that you believe that during an attempted insurrection against the government where the Capital was being breached, the White House phones were dead for 457 minutes? I would think that they may have been working off of Jared, Mark Meadows, or Ivanka's phones. That might be a reasonable explanation. But, they ran silent, ran deep for that period of time in that moment? Not believable. Nixon went down over 16 minutes of audio recordings that were missing.
 
OUBubba said:
So, you're telling me that you believe that during an attempted insurrection against the government where the Capital was being breached, the White House phones were dead for 457 minutes? I would think that they may have been working off of Jared, Mark Meadows, or Ivanka's phones. That might be a reasonable explanation. But, they ran silent, ran deep for that period of time in that moment? Not believable. Nixon went down over 16 minutes of audio recordings that were missing.
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You are simply repeating the hoax that was debunked, and I think accepted by media.
 
Fact: 11:17 a.m. to 6:54 p.m = no calls detailed. It's no hoax. Honestly, NOT talking on the phone in that period of time, given what was transpiring, would be damning. You need to pick up the phone to call in the national guard, activate the military, and protect Congress.
 
OUBubba said:
Fact: 11:17 a.m. to 6:54 p.m = no calls detailed. It's no hoax. Honestly, NOT talking on the phone in that period of time, given what was transpiring, would be damning. You need to pick up the phone to call in the national guard, activate the military, and protect Congress.
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So you don't even believe the liberal media which indicated other phones in use besides his personal cell appear to account for the time?
 
mb227 said:
So you don't even believe the liberal media which indicated other phones in use besides his personal cell appear to account for the time?
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I'm just saying that there is a gap in the data that they provided of 457 minutes. It's at the least suspicious. How long did it take for the watergate 16 minutes to come out?
 
Let's wait and see. So, you're telling me that you believe that during an attempted insurrection against the government where the Capital was being breached, the White House phones were dead for 457 minutes? I would think that they may have been working off of Jared, Mark Meadows, or Ivanka's phones. That might be a reasonable explanation. But, they ran silent, ran deep for that period of time in that moment? Not believable. Nixon went down over 16 minutes of audio recordings that were missing.
The part in red is the hoax.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
Let's wait and see. So, you're telling me that you believe that during an attempted insurrection against the government where the Capital was being breached, the White House phones were dead for 457 minutes? I would think that they may have been working off of Jared, Mark Meadows, or Ivanka's phones. That might be a reasonable explanation. But, they ran silent, ran deep for that period of time in that moment? Not believable. Nixon went down over 16 minutes of audio recordings that were missing.
The part in red is the hoax.
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"During an attempt to overthrow a free and fair election"
Is that better?
 
OUBubba said:
"During an attempt to overthrow a free and fair election"
Is that better?
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First, the election wasn’t fair to begin with. Also, they were there to protest the election, which is a right under our constitution. See how the MSM makes protest sound sinister on topics they don’t like? Finally, how do you overthrow an election?

By the way, how is Russian collusion going for you? How is the trump impeachment over Ukraine corruption going for you? How is the Rittenhouse trial going for you?
 
mchammer said:
First, the election wasn’t fair to begin with. Also, they were there to protest the election, which is a right under our constitution. See how the MSM makes protest sound sinister on topics they don’t like? Finally, how do you overthrow an election?

By the way, how is Russian collusion going for you? How is the trump impeachment over Ukraine corruption going for you? How is the Rittenhouse trial going for you?
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Protesting the election and working in cahoots with Congress to override the will of the people is over throwing an election. They had a plan, and, but for Pence's conscience it may have worked.

Trump was at a minimum collusion curious. Did he not meet with Russians to get dirt on HRC? Did he not change the GOP platform and gut it of it's anti-Russian items AT THE CONVENTION? Did his campaign manager not brief a Russian oligarch whom he owed millions? Did he not withhold foreign aid to a Russian adversary?

The GOP should have allowed the impeachment to take place. The GOP would have a tailwind going into this election sans the least popular human to 70% of the populace.

Rittenhouse. LOL. Take your AR-15 to render aid.
 
OUBubba said:
Survey says? XXX

The family members of the officers who committed suicide would probably disagree with your description.
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If someone commits suicide, they had major issues to begin with. To claim the proximate cause was ANY individual other than the one taking their own life is to ignore reality.

And while I realize Okies have little choice but to ignore reality in order to get through the day, the reality is that those officers were NOT killed by protestors, peaceful OR otherwise classified.
 
mb227 said:
If someone commits suicide, they had major issues to begin with. To claim the proximate cause was ANY individual other than the one taking their own life is to ignore reality.

And while I realize Okies have little choice but to ignore reality in order to get through the day, the reality is that those officers were NOT killed by protestors, peaceful OR otherwise classified.
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If we had a real Jan 6 commission, we would find out why the capitol police and other law enforcement were poorly prepared to begin with.
 
If it was J6 was truly an insurrection it would of been better organized and armed. And the only person who died during was a protester.

I don’t agree with what a few Americans did, but there has been worse bar shootings.
 
Wait! I am confused.
oh Bubba?
So are there Repubs on the Jan 6 Committee or not?
The iis link to CNN make it look like there are.
 
theiioftx said:
All were rejected by Pelosi. She handpicked Cheney and Kinzinger. But don't let facts get in the way of the democrat narrative.
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Admittedly, however, when you stick those two RINO's on the committee, one may as well concede there is not a bi-partisan committee...
 
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