Hartzell leaving for SMU

For those needing remedial education on Academic Freedom, denying tenure on the basis of honest opinion on controversial subjects is not popular with thoughtful educators. Creating lifelong criminal consequences for student protestors like Abbott tried is a few steps further than a scholar who simply wanted to protect the learning environment wanted to go.
 
Crockett said:
For those needing remedial education on Academic Freedom, denying tenure on the basis of honest opinion on controversial subjects is not popular with thoughtful educators. Creating lifelong criminal consequences for student protestors like Abbott tried is a few steps further than a scholar who simply wanted to protect the learning environment wanted to go.
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Most of the protesters were not students. Also, the student protesters chose to get arrested. They had a choice. They are not entitled to be an activist while blocking education of others. On the contrary, I would suggest the student protesters did learn something useful.
 
Why does "tenure" exist? Is it anywhere else in the workplace other than federal government employees? You either do you job and are damn good at it or you're out the door.

When I tell my grandchildren about some of the teachers/professors I had at Texas, their response is "no way". There were guys like H Wayne Morgan, Clarence Lasby, and a female accounting prof, who was a partner at Ernst & Ernst, Throckmorton (Stat prof who was denied admission to the MBA program but chosen as a Rhodes Scholar). So let's reward people that can't make it in the real world by guaranteeing them a position until they become Provost or Dean of a College or President?
 
mchammer said:
Most of the protesters were not students. Also, the student protesters chose to get arrested. They had a choice. They are not entitled to be an activist while blocking education of others. On the contrary, I would suggest the student protesters did learn something useful.
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Neither Hartzell nor I criticized the arrests.
 
Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one and if I had to guess I would say that after several years of successfully dealing with the daily heart attack inducing stress of UT and the myriad of challenges of overseeing a large public institution, the simple life of having billionaires on speed dial and far less of a political driven environment for the same or greater pay certainly seems like a life choice many would make. The last SMU President was there forever so this is one of those "retirement" jobs with a crap ton of stability.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
Depends entirely on the nature of the protest and the protestors.
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Yes. I don't know why protestors are treated uniquely. Either you break a law or you don't. If a protestor doesn't break a law then there should be no criminal charge. If they do break a law they should. The punishment severity should track with the type of crime committed.
 
I doubt smu has as many dei loving, liberal hating Americans as we have at UT. Just think about it, would you send your kids to UT today. I would not want to just because of culture outside of athletics. If smu triples his pay and he can deal with non communists' then power to him and good luck!!
 
Legend,

I'm reasonably sure SMU did not even have to double his pay. I think we pay him $1.5. Maybe $2-2.5.

Does president of SMU get a house like Bauer House. Maybe the Cox family has an extra in Preston Hollow or one of Aunt Caroline's properties has a nice space, although she went to Texas not SMU as did Eddie.
 
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