Good God, what passes for music these days sucks

I wonder if you guys think this song is any good. It is a fairly recent pop song. I personally love it. No official video for the better original version, but you can hear it from:

Apologize - One Republic

(was mcbrett posting stuff he likes or thinks is stupid? - some of it sounds like crap to me but some of it is good. If you think stuff I like sucks, I won't be offended... We like what we like)
 
Slap me if my facts are all wrong, but hasn't most of the money and fame been stripped out of the music world? Aren't album sales way lower than in the 70s and hasn't file sharing decimated royalties? With 65 radio stations on, no one song or artist can cross over to the stardom that the Beatles, Stones, etc. could reach. That's why the only big money is in ticket sales from stadium shows from acts that became so big years and years ago. (The "corporate" stars have so much money put behind them, and so many ownership cuts that the artist is not really getting that much.) Tell me if I'm way off base, because I don't really follow this, but don't people like the Stones, Elton John, U2, Bruce Springsteen, etc. even to this day make way more money than anyone who put a band together in the last 20 years?

I'm sure that if you took any industry and took away the financial incentive and megastar end-of-rainbow goals, you would have far less talent and effort going into it.
 
Yes I was posting songs I like- and no I'm not offended if others don't agree. I prefer obviously that people have varying and unique interests.. it's just nice to expand the horizons of those who think the only music is the crap they hear on the radio.

Some of my fav music is Bach/Tchaikovsky/John Williams etc..I think if we take a step back and ask if the music we like today will be played in 100 years- sadly 99% of the time the answer is no with the exception of classical music scores and compositions.

The ability of a song to endure time of course does not mean it's the first thing you want to hear when in the car or at a game..each song has its moments.
 
rhorn, that was a great post and you are spot on about the classifications of people back then by what they listened to. You could tell the mod's, metals, punks or freaks from the jocks, etc.

I was a hybrid. I hid my New Order and stuff like that from the metal friends. We were into real thrash and aggression like Venom, Slayer, Crumbsuckers, DRI, Bathory, S.O.D. and stuff like that so for them there was sadly no room for New Order, Wedding Present, Cure and bands like that.

My punk friends would not have an issue with it.

In any one day I could listen to Iron Maiden, John Coltrane, Astrud Gilberto, Joy Division, Kraftwerk, Slayer, Manfred Mann's Earth Band, Saga, Statler Brothers and Carl Orff with ease.

You listed some great sites. Youtube can be good to by following links to other videos by other bands an artist has worked with. Pandora is great with that.
 
Wish I had gotten in on this thread earlier. I want to add my two cents to some of these topics.

-----The pop charts have always been littered with creative abominations. I listened to "Tic Tok," and I don't think it's any worse than anything on Paula Abdul's smash hit debut record in the 80's. The fact is that teenage girls buy a lot of records, so record companies are going to market to them. That's been a constant in the music industry for 50 years (which is really saying something, considering how much the industry has changed).

-----I think people are way too hard on "American Idol." Yeah, it's a gimmick. An over-exposed gimmick. But look at the people who have won it. As a group, you've got singers with weight issues, prematurely gray, over-the-hill, etc. None of them are especially attractive. The big majority of the winners/finalists would have had a VERY hard time getting a major label deal under the traditional rules. But think of it this way: Americans voted for people who can actually SING. What a ******* crazy concept. None of them looks like Ke$ha-- or whatever her stupid ******* "name" is-- but I'll bet every one of them can sing her off the stage. So I'd advise a little caution to those who want to hold the show up as an example of everything that's wrong with music.

-----mcbrett, in response to (quote)The Killers, don't need slimeball producers to teach them how to dance and sing(quote). I've got some of their demos of songs that became the first record. Trust me: they very definitely needed a producer (not that there's anything wrong with that).

-----I think the past decade was just a horrible one for music. Just horrible. I was going to put up a main board post around New Year's on this topic, and I'd still like to get around to it, so I'll save my elaboration on that statement. Maybe tomorrow.

-----(shameless self-promotion) After years of listening to pop music and thinking, "Man, I could make a better record than that," I finally put my money where my mouth was last year. Check out "When I Let Go" by Paul Wesley on iTunes. Or check out the videos (others on this same youtube channel):

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Music sucks because stupid people are out-breeding everyone else. The largest group to profit from is the breeders. Why does everything suck these days? Music, Movies, Tv, etc.

idiocracy.
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when nickelback is in the top 5 in album sales, what do you expect to see delivered to us.....

as long as people will still buy nickelback, creed, etc... then by god they are going to give us what we want. as it has been for the last 20 years, you'll need to look beyond the radio for good new music.
 
If you people would actually put forth just a little bit of effort, you would see that there is a ton of good music out there.

Here is just a small list of great bands/artists out there right now:

Band of Horses
The Arcade Fire
Interpol
The Decemberists
Ben Folds
Muse
Andrew Bird
Radiohead
Spoon
The National
The Avett Brothers
Bon Iver
My Morning Jacket
The Strokes
Ghostland Observatory
Franz Ferdinand

That is just a small list, but if you can't find anything you like off that list, I'd be very surprised.

Stop listening to Top 40 crap and seek out good music from real artists.
 
to echo Benjamin's comment, try these also:

Ola Podrida
Real Estate
YACHT
Washed Out
Miike Snow
Surfer Blood
Fanfarlo
Choir of Young Believers

All of the above can be seen at SXSW 2010 in about 5 weeks. There's always good music available, you just have to find it. And with today's access to media, there is no excuse to complain about music. (unless you limit yourself to the same 40 songs on repeat every 24 hours which would drive anyone crazy).
 
Okay-here's an up and comer. Get a load of livefromsugarhill.tv tomorrow, 7 pm cst-that first unknown singer that is opening for The Groovetown Horns gets half his dna from me. Ray Benson told him that "he didn't suck", and that's high praise coming from Ray.
 
I know the band has been referenced before, but I have been rediscovering the Arcade Fire album Neon Bible. It doesn't have the instant classic vibe I got immediately upon hearing their debut (full-length) album Funeral. Three years in, I think Neon Bible holds up well when compared to Funeral.
I think a neglected song is "Black Wave/Bad Vibrations" (love the abrupt shift at 1:52-1:57).The Link


I can't wait for album number #3. We'll see if the Arcade Fire can string three great albums together; I think we are bearing witness to one of the great bands of the last 10-15 years.
 
Some years ago, I saw an interview of Chuck Berry. Chuck, as you may know, apparently had a penchant for younger girls, and went to the pen more than once for statutory rape. He had just gotten out, and the interviewer asked him if he had written any new tunes while he was in the slammer. Chuck looked at him and said something like "Man, I thought you had to know something about music to work for a music magazine." The guy started to protest, and Chuck said "Look, a tune is music, and a song is words that tell a story and go along with that tune. No tune, and the song turns into a poem... okay? So... did I write any new tunes? No, I didn't write no new tunes, on account of there ain't any left to write. See, there ain't but seven notes and there's only so many ways you can string 'em together so they sound good. And this cat named Mozart, he already wrote 'em down every way you can write 'em, so there ain't any new ones." It's a good thing the court didn't know this when he sued the Beach Boys for plagiarizing Sweet Little Sixteen, huh?

The interviewer just sat there with his mouth open.

Chuck picked up a guitar and started picking, and said "Now, if you wanna know, did I write any new songs? Why yes, I did. Would you like to hear some?"
 
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