General Presidential Campaign: Trump vs Hillary
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NJlonghorn
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Good strategy. Say things that will appeal to people who already support you, and cause most of the rest to roll their eyes.
Maybe there is something to the Clinton health thing -- but Trump's credibility is so low that he makes things untrue by saying them.
The same is true of Clinton, btw, but to a slightly lesser degree.
NJlonghorn
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oops, double post -- deleted
I35
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I'm not sure how Trump lost credibility for saying things that aren't true? Of course he exaggerates, but who doesn't? His problem is just the opposite. He says exactly what's on his mind that's the truth, but political correctness bites him in the *** sometimes. He does a lot of self BB shot inflicted marks on his skin that's turned into gunshot wounds by the time the media gets done with him. His candid answers are refreshing by many.
They are gonna call him Hitler no matter what he says or doesn't say, why shouldn't he just say what's on his mind? It's what's got him this far...
Joe Fan
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Joe Fan
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More corruption at the Clinton State Department leaking out.
This reads like an old email scam.
"Shortly after Hillary Clinton left the Obama administration, the State Department quietly took steps to purchase real estate in Nigeria from a firm whose parent company is owned by a major donor to the Clinton Foundation, records obtained by Fox News show.
On March 20, 2013, William P. Franklin, an “international realty specialist” at the State Department, emailed Mary E. Davis, an American diplomat stationed in Africa, instructing her to “put on Post letterhead” an “expression of interest” by the department in purchasing property at Eko Atlantic, a massive real estate development off the coast of Lagos. Franklin further instructed that the signed letter was to be “delivered to Ronald Chagoury.”
The draft letter, also obtained by Fox News, was undated and addressed to Chagoury care of his firm South Energyx Nigeria Limited, a subsidiary of the larger Chagoury Group that is spearheading the Eko Atlantic real estate venture. The State Department letter sought, among other things, to confirm that the department could proceed with “acquisition of the real property…[at] the asking price of $1,250 per square meter.”
Overtures to real estate developers from State Department officials scouting locations for embassies, consulates and other diplomatic facilities would ordinarily not arouse interest. But in this case, the budding transaction – never completed, the department now says – raised eyebrows because Ronald Chagoury is the brother and business partner, in the Chagoury Group, of Gilbert Chagoury, a Lebanese-born businessman whom federal records show has donated between $1 and $5 million to the Clinton Foundation.
Indeed, Gilbert Chagoury’s friendship with the Clintons can be traced back to the Clinton presidency. In the mid-1990s, Chagoury donated nearly $500,000 to a voter-registration drive designed to help Democratic candidates, attended a White House dinner for premium donors, and met with high-ranking officials in the Clinton White House – including Susan Rice, now President Obama’s national security adviser – who were shaping U.S. policy toward Nigeria.
More recently, the Chagourys’ close ties to the Clintons generated headlines when a separate series of emails from 2009 – between Doug Band, an aide to former President Clinton and Huma Abedin, an aide to Secretary Clinton – revealed the eagerness of the State Department to oblige a request for Chagoury to be granted access to senior officials working on Lebanon....."
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nigerian-firm-tied-to-clinton-foundation.html
This reads like an old email scam.
"Shortly after Hillary Clinton left the Obama administration, the State Department quietly took steps to purchase real estate in Nigeria from a firm whose parent company is owned by a major donor to the Clinton Foundation, records obtained by Fox News show.
On March 20, 2013, William P. Franklin, an “international realty specialist” at the State Department, emailed Mary E. Davis, an American diplomat stationed in Africa, instructing her to “put on Post letterhead” an “expression of interest” by the department in purchasing property at Eko Atlantic, a massive real estate development off the coast of Lagos. Franklin further instructed that the signed letter was to be “delivered to Ronald Chagoury.”
The draft letter, also obtained by Fox News, was undated and addressed to Chagoury care of his firm South Energyx Nigeria Limited, a subsidiary of the larger Chagoury Group that is spearheading the Eko Atlantic real estate venture. The State Department letter sought, among other things, to confirm that the department could proceed with “acquisition of the real property…[at] the asking price of $1,250 per square meter.”
Overtures to real estate developers from State Department officials scouting locations for embassies, consulates and other diplomatic facilities would ordinarily not arouse interest. But in this case, the budding transaction – never completed, the department now says – raised eyebrows because Ronald Chagoury is the brother and business partner, in the Chagoury Group, of Gilbert Chagoury, a Lebanese-born businessman whom federal records show has donated between $1 and $5 million to the Clinton Foundation.
Indeed, Gilbert Chagoury’s friendship with the Clintons can be traced back to the Clinton presidency. In the mid-1990s, Chagoury donated nearly $500,000 to a voter-registration drive designed to help Democratic candidates, attended a White House dinner for premium donors, and met with high-ranking officials in the Clinton White House – including Susan Rice, now President Obama’s national security adviser – who were shaping U.S. policy toward Nigeria.
More recently, the Chagourys’ close ties to the Clintons generated headlines when a separate series of emails from 2009 – between Doug Band, an aide to former President Clinton and Huma Abedin, an aide to Secretary Clinton – revealed the eagerness of the State Department to oblige a request for Chagoury to be granted access to senior officials working on Lebanon....."
MORE AT THE LINK
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nigerian-firm-tied-to-clinton-foundation.html
Joe Fan
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AustinBat
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Joe Fan, you don't seriously believe she is totally biased and unworthy of the title of journalist, do you? The only reason people like her are still employed is that liberals believe every word they say as long as it fits with their views. I looked back at some old media references questioning her health that were made during the primary with Bernie. Now that she is the nominee they will never mention it again.Same woman here demanded medical records from both John McCain and Mitt Romney
AustinBat
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Oh dear, there have already been too many murders of people connected to HRC and the DNC in the past few months. One was getting ready to testify about the emails and he was mysteriously killed. When you look at it, people like Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Wiley, Monica Lewinsky are lucky to be alive.Hillary responds to #HillarysStools!
The stool, like the Diazepam-injector dude, is gone today
(I really hope we did not help get that poor guy killed)
Joe Fan
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But a Broaddrick neighbor, who had a security camera set up which supposedly caught Bill's coming and goings, did die mysteriously. The Clintons left a trail of bodies behind them in Arkansas
Seattle Husker
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The whole Putin/Trump nexus is comical.
What has Putin wanted that he has not gotten under Obama?
He used to not have Crimea, but now he has it.
He used to not have Eastern Ukraine, but now he has it (where the maj of their minerals are)
(the entire Ukraine mess was cooked up by Soros, Obama and Clinton but of course the US media has never called them on it)
+ He marched into Syria and has done whatever he wanted.
Where has Putin been retrained from anything under Obama? Why would he ever want a different US President than the one he has now?
Is there a reason your timeline started after the ouster of Putin's puppet Yuschenko? We know based on the leaked audio that the US was pushing for the change in leadership in Ukraine?
You're Syrian comment assumes that Russia wasn't already there. Syria has been a longtime ally of Russia.
It's not rainbows and gumdrops but if you look a the total picture as it pertains to Russia, they have an ally on the ropes (Syria), lost one in Ukraine and have fighting on their border which is costing them resources to combat. Hey, they have a new nice resort area in Crimea though.
No response on needing a terrorist group to support your claims though?
Joe Fan
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It didnt and yes
Seattle Husker
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Reading this thread is like watching Trump's campaign. There is no singular message in attacking HRC as a candidate. Why should voters not vote for her?
- Benghazi
- Email scandal
- Bad job as Sec of State (i.e. Co-Founder of ISIS
- Clinton Foundation
- Health
- Sponsor of death squads
- DNC collusion
- etc.
Aesop's "Boy who cried wolf" comes to mind when looking at the totality of the accusations against HRC and why they don't appear to be influencing the voters. Could it be that all the ****-flinging by the right has resulted in them being tuned out by the average voter? Now even the real scandals don't get the pub they should because too much other fake **** has been thrown?
At this point there is a very good chance that HRC will be POTUS when the Republicans had every advantage coming into this election. How they ****** that up will feed many research papers following the election.
- Benghazi
- Email scandal
- Bad job as Sec of State (i.e. Co-Founder of ISIS
- Clinton Foundation
- Health
- Sponsor of death squads
- DNC collusion
- etc.
Aesop's "Boy who cried wolf" comes to mind when looking at the totality of the accusations against HRC and why they don't appear to be influencing the voters. Could it be that all the ****-flinging by the right has resulted in them being tuned out by the average voter? Now even the real scandals don't get the pub they should because too much other fake **** has been thrown?
At this point there is a very good chance that HRC will be POTUS when the Republicans had every advantage coming into this election. How they ****** that up will feed many research papers following the election.
"no singular message?"
I will have some of what you are smoking if you truly are incapable of seeing that, with that much crap one person could be involved with, they are incapable of leading this country.
Just how many times DOES she have to commit illegal acts and engage in conduct that results in people dying before you DO view Hillary as unqualified for the position?
I will have some of what you are smoking if you truly are incapable of seeing that, with that much crap one person could be involved with, they are incapable of leading this country.
Just how many times DOES she have to commit illegal acts and engage in conduct that results in people dying before you DO view Hillary as unqualified for the position?
The Clinton Death Squads explained. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
Of course, as Stephen Colbert was fond of pointing out "Facts have a well-known liberal bias.!"
Of course, as Stephen Colbert was fond of pointing out "Facts have a well-known liberal bias.!"
Seattle Husker
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You do realize half of that is conspiracy ********, right? Many on the right have trouble differentiating facts from conspiracy BS which is something they have in common with Trump. That's the problem as I see it...when the right portrays EVERYTHING as a problem (regardless of whether a true tie exists) then NOTHING is a problem.
Conduct that results in people dying? You've left facts at the door and gone to conspiracy land. You shouldn't be surprised when others don't follow.
Seattle Husker
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It's obviously true because there is a list. Think about it like this...it's so absurd that even Trump hasn't brought it up yet. Ponder that for one moment. The guy who tried to link Cruz' father to the JFK assassination hasn't yet suggested that HRC is linked to Death Squads. Trying to advance that conspiracy is like crying wolf the 2nd time. Then, when you uncover the email scandal people wonder why it doesn't get as much attention. I imagine the ****-flingers standing there covered in excrement wondering where the stench is coming from.
NJlonghorn
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In the last 12 months, there have been six deaths that could be traced back to me:
- my grandmother
- one of my law-practice clients
- a student at the HS where I serve on the BOE
- the father of one of my friends
- the mother of another friend
- the wife of a former president of the country that I have lived in my entire life
Seattle Husker
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That "6 degrees of separation" maxim will be the death of us all. Let's start by executing Kevin Bacon.
Common thread: she's a crook.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/18/no-evidence-clinton-aides-required-ethics-training/
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/18/no-evidence-clinton-aides-required-ethics-training/
Seattle Husker
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Virtually every senior executive of every company I've worked for would be a "crook" if looking only at their compliance training history. Guess what, I bet you she never completed a performance review either though the policy is to complete one. Compliance training serves one need...attempts to absolve the company of responsibility by saying "Hey...we trained the employee so that make THEM at fault". This is needed primarily for defense in lawsuits, particularly class action suits.
Alternatively she has no ethics like when she made $100k on a $1k futures bet.
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