General Presidential Campaign: Trump vs Hillary

NJlonghorn said:
The money is not going to Stein, nor is it going to her campaign. The article says that she is directing the money towards voter-integrity efforts.
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LOL Sure thing.

"Stein told the Free Beacon that she wouldn’t personally pocket the money and instead use it to create a new voter integrity group."

So are we to assume she won't lead or have a big part in this newly developed "group". I highly doubt that.

It stands to reason she will be well compensated for her position within the group. So how would that not be a pass through of at least some of these donated funds to Stein?

Sound familiar? It is/was her silent accomplice's preferred way of illegally profiting through donations to the Clinton Foundation. Donate to us, we'll invest in ABC, and ABC will compensate you. Wake up, Libs. :rolleyes1:
 
Oh brother,,,, of course she's going to profit. It's the nature of their game. Color my cynical for sure but I am certain that she will have plenty of 'I'll gotten gains', perhaps only as Brad mentions but she'll get it. To be fair I say the same of either party, R or D. Even my last bastion of fiscal integrity, Ron Paul, had some disparaging link referenced (on this forum I think) which really was like a final blow to any remaining optimism.
 
Brad Austin said:
LOL Sure thing.

"Stein told the Free Beacon that she wouldn’t personally pocket the money and instead use it to create a new voter integrity group."

So are we to assume she won't lead or have a big part in this newly developed "group". I highly doubt that.

It stands to reason she will be well compensated for her position within the group. So how would that not be a pass through of at least some of these donated funds to Stein?

Sound familiar? It is/was her silent accomplice's preferred way of illegally profiting through donations to the Clinton Foundation. Donate to us, we'll invest in ABC, and ABC will compensate you. Wake up, Libs. :rolleyes1:
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nashhorn said:
Oh brother,,,, of course she's going to profit. It's the nature of their game. Color my cynical for sure but I am certain that she will have plenty of 'I'll gotten gains', perhaps only as Brad mentions but she'll get it. To be fair I say the same of either party, R or D. Even my last bastion of fiscal integrity, Ron Paul, had some disparaging link referenced (on this forum I think) which really was like a final blow to any remaining optimism.
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You guys are likely right that Stein will stay involved in the voter-integrity effort, and that she will probably draw a salary. But assuming the salary is reasonable, how is it corrupt? Is every charity that pays its director corrupt?

And by the way, what would you want Stein to do with the extra money? Burn it? I get the feeling you guys wouldn't be happy unless she donated the money to the Tea Party.
 
That's it, the "extra" money is always a question. And there no good answer as to what to do with it. I wish there was a way to give it back or just put into some 'pay against the debt' fund. And before you say it, yes, I do realize exactly how naive that sounds - nay - it is. But I am so sick of the greedy b****** s I want to see something, anything, that brings some hope.
 
I don't know anything about anything about Jill Stein but by all appearances she doesn't appear to be in politics for the money. Here is Forbes' review of her 2015 tax return. Without much research, she comes across as an ideological tree hugger.

If she was down for the money one would have expected her to jump into the Democratic party rather than Green Party. Much more money in the former.
 
Joe Fan said:
You were told in here, concurrent with events, that this stunt was nothing but a cash grab
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I agreed, a cash grab for the Green Party. Stein herself stated as much when she said that all monies raised that didn't go to the recount would be put towards "preparing the next Generation of Green Party candidates. These articles are written as if she is personally profiting from them. No evidence has shown of that.
 
Huma

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Just think, if Hillary had won, her equivalent of Obama's Valerie Jarrett would have been under a FBI criminal investigation, of course, Hillary should have been too, nice. Those whacky Dems.

Now Hillary can go run NYC. They're used to corrupt politicians. They won't mind and she may be less crazy than the current NYC mayor.
 
Clean said:
Just think, if Hillary had won, her equivalent of Obama's Valerie Jarrett would have been under a FBI criminal investigation, of course, Hillary should have been too, nice.
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The letter states that they had information that the informal investigation had become a full criminal investigation but the "information could be incorrect". The letter they are seeking is from 2013. Do you think the investigation is still ongoing 3 years later? Could it be a coincidence that the Republican controlled Judiciary Committee was asking for this information in 2015? Think they might find this information useful during the general campaign?

With all that you've jumped to the conclusion Huma Abedin is currently under investigation.

I'm no Huma supporter and think there should have been an investigation if she was concurrently working for the State Dept. and Clinton Foundation.
 
Is this just another Comey strategically-timed docu-dump?
Or, is the FBI sending a message to the incoming new admin a message that this is not over?

Sessions will get some questions about this stuff, but I dont know how specific

This one is about the “Missing” Clinton Seagate Hard Drive
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A break for the Clintons

Sessions said he would recuse himself from any investigation of Clinton Foundation / Clinton emails

This is what Lynch should have done, but did not.
 
News from today's "Russia hacking" hearings and other leaks:
- The Russians hacked the RNC too, albeit older no longer in use domains per Comey.
- The Russians have "compromising" personal and financial information about Trump too but have yet to release it. The primary source is a former Mi6 agent in Moscow.
- There was also allegations of a continuing dialogue during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government. This was relayed to both Obama and Trump in their briefings.

Trump better make nice with the intelligence community or they may single-handedly take him down.
 
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Seattle Husker said:
News from today's "Russia hacking" hearings and other leaks:
- The Russians hacked the RNC too, albeit older no longer in use domains per Comey.
- The Russians have "compromising" personal and financial information about Trump too but have yet to release it. The primary source is a former Mi6 agent in Moscow.
- There was also allegations of a continuing dialogue during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government. This was relayed to both Obama and Trump in their briefings.

Trump better make nice with the intelligence community or they may single-handedly take him down.
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Or do as Reagan and fire the air traffic controllers. Fire a few for leaking and these passive aggressive federal workers will go submissive.
 
Buzzfeed has posted the documents that McCain handed over to Comey.

The dossier, which is a collection of memos written over a period of months, includes specific, unverified, and potentially unverifiable allegations of contact between Trump aides and Russian operatives, and graphic claims of sexual acts documented by the Russians. BuzzFeed News reporters in the US and Europe have been investigating various alleged facts in the dossier but have not verified or falsified them. CNN reported Tuesday that a two-page synopsis of the report was given to President Obama and Trump.

Now BuzzFeed News is publishing the full document so that Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the US government.

The document was prepared for political opponents of Trump by a person who is understood to be a former British intelligence agent. It is not just unconfirmed: It includes some clear errors. The report misspells the name of one company, “Alpha Group,” throughout. It is Alfa Group. The report says the settlement of Barvikha, outside Moscow, is “reserved for the residences of the top leadership and their close associates.” It is not reserved for anyone, and it is also populated by the very wealthy.

The Trump administration’s transition team did not immediately respond to BuzzFeed News’ request for comment. However, the president-elect’s attorney, Michael Cohen, told Mic that the allegations were absolutely false.

“It’s so ridiculous on so many levels,” he said. “Clearly, the person who created this did so from their imagination or did so hoping that the liberal media would run with this fake story for whatever rationale they might have.”
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mchammer said:
Or do as Reagan and fire the air traffic controllers. Fire a few for leaking and these passive aggressive federal workers will go submissive.
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That works to shakedown unions. Not sure that's applicable to CIA/FBI.

Lot's of witty Tweeter's tonight...#GoldenShowers #2 on Twitter trends right now.



The highlighted section from the documents is too salacious to be true but it makes for great comic material.
 
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I'll give Obama credit for something. In the 8 years he was President, I never heard his name and the term "golden shower" uttered in the same sentence.
 
The bully doesn't like being bullied? Anyone surprised? Of course this is after he's repeatedly questioned their credibility, sources, and stated he had more information than they did. Wait...maybe he does if there is any credibility to these memos.

 
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If anybody is immune to this, it would be Trump. It's pretty much accepted in the public domain that Trump is a bully, a sexual harasser, a man who would cheerfully screw people out of their life savings and all they could borrow through Trump University, a man who mocks the disabled. A man unfaithful to 3 spouses. So to all of l this new stuff: So what?
 
Crockett said:
If anybody is immune to this, it would be Trump. It's pretty much accepted in the public domain that Trump is a bully, a sexual harasser, a man who would cheerfully screw people out of their life savings and all they could borrow through Trump University, a man who mocks the disabled. A man unfaithful to 3 spouses. So to all of l this new stuff: So what?
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Could Americans accept collusion with the Russians? His supporters certainly could because to them the only option to not support Trump is to side with HRC. So, if he was colluding with the Russians "all's good" because "HRC..."
 
Seattle Husker said:
Could Americans accept collusion with the Russians? His supporters certainly could because to them the only option to not support Trump is to side with HRC. So, if he was colluding with the Russians "all's good" because "HRC..."
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You're right, and it's really sad. Frankly, there's no shame in saying you voted for Trump because of HRC but that you're bothered by any collusion with Russians.
 
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