Gavin Kash

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I read Pierce’s explanation about why it “didn’t work out” for Kash - he was trying to the right thing. By pulling the scholarship? Didn’t understand the explanation. But I know we could use his bat.

I don’t understand how we miss out on guys that end up at top ranked schools. We lost 7-8 starters, O realize that but there is a portal to get guys IN also.

IDK if Pierce is the guy to get the Horns to the top?
 
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I don't know about Kash's situation, but we certainly could use more hitting.

We have just been really spoiled with Cliff and Augie. They were the 1/1000 exceptions. Pierce seems to be doing pretty good, if not great. We knew this year would be a step back, just like the basketball team will be next year.

Trying someone else is a crap shoot. There are no sure things. We could end up a lot worse.
 
Blaming this one on Pierce is a stretch, he did right by the kid who is now having a breakout season with someone else. That happens and it is just baseball with the limited scholarships compared to other sports.

The anti Pierce negativity is really something I don't get. In five full seasons at Texas he has 3 Omaha appearances, a couple of conference titles and he has shown himself to be a strong recruiter and generally good guy. So his record has done nothing to call into question his job. But we should have the elite of the elite the naysayers cry, well that doesnt address the other problem which is exactly who is Texas going to go and get if it fires a coach who makes it to Omaha in over 50% of the seasons he coached. The Horns didnt exactly have elite coaches knocking down the door back in 2016 so who exactly are you going to get to replace him? The move to the SEC is a year away, barring a collapse by Texas Pierce is the guy to help Texas baseball make that transition.
 
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Blaming this one on Pierce is a stretch, he did right by the kid who is now having a breakout season with someone else. That happens and it is just baseball with the limited scholarships compared to other sports.

The anti Pierce negativity is really something I don't get. In five full seasons at Texas he has 3 Omaha appearances, a couple of conference titles and he has shown himself to be a strong recruiter and generally good guy. So his record has done nothing to call into question his job. But we should have the elite of the elite the naysayers cry, well that doesnt address the other problem which is exactly who is Texas going to go and get if it fires a coach who makes it to Omaha in over 50% of the seasons he coached. The Horns didnt exactly have elite coaches knocking down the door back in 2016 so who exactly are you going to get to replace him? The move to the SEC is a year away, barring a collapse by Texas Pierce is the guy to help Texas baseball make that transition.
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Nothing to call into question his job? If you don't get it, please refer to the 2019 season, when Pierce led us to a last place finish in the Big XII. Let that sink in for a minute - the University of Texas Longhorns finished in DEAD LAST place in conference. That should NEVER happen and he will carry that around his neck until - and only until - he ever wins a natty. His only legitimate trip to Omaha was 2021 and the others were set up with lucky breaks (check the records once we got there). Class rankings would also dispute that he is a strong recruiter, when you measure against elite peers/programs, and he hasn't exactly been killing it in the portal either. Saying he is a "good guy" and that we apparently didn't have many other choices back in 2016 are weak arguments for why he should be the guy to be entrusted with the keys to a program which is somewhere in the Top 3 all-time, unless for some reason we no longer aspire to that status.
 
What I think is he is a very good evaluator of potential and then does a very good job of helping the player meet that potential. For some guys he seems to lack patience then others get plenty of opportunities.

This years team is interesting and could be very good. The best time to evaluate them is at year end. We have more serviceable depth and versatility than I can remember. We have a mix of righties and lefties at the bat and on the mound. What will be interesting is if we can have every guy improve between now and year end. That doesn’t mean there won’t be ups and downs.
 
Hasn’t Pierce made it to Omaha faster, and more often, than Augie at this point in his UT tenure?
 
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The only argument the Pierce haters have is 2019, they cling to it desperately refusing to acknowledge that a single losing season sometimes happens, and by the way in 2019 every injury imaginable seemed to happen that year and those injuries and some just plain bad luck took a solid team and just carved the heart out of it.

Hell Augie had two losing seasons over his tenure at Texas and five teams that didn't even make a regional. And before you say that was late in his tenure, his first losing season was season 2 and he didn't even make a regional until his third full season.

Gus made the CWS seven of his first eight years but that was a different era so comparing Pierce to him is apples to watermelon difference. Pierce wasn't my first choice back on 2016 but lets not forget how many coaches passed on the opportunity, Pierce was the best choice who was willing to come and he has done nothing in his five full seasons to merit the kind of disdain and outright hatred from some of the Texas fan base.
 
You guys who wanna fire Pierce are out of your damn minds. Can you not see what replacing coaches every 3-4 years has done to the football program? Pierce is our guy and he knows the game.
 
With respect to Gash, I have no idea how that all went down. There are certainly reasons that I’m fine with letting him walk. I can only speculate on all that.

Now, I can reasonably suspect that last year did not go as he suspected. He did not have many opportunities to achieve. We did have a great starting lineup so obviously that limited his opportunities. But we didn’t do a great job of getting him chances to succeed.

Baseball is different than the others when it comes to professional drafts prospects. There’s pressure to show your talents by year 3 and really before that. Basketball you can do little or be average for a year then get drafted. For the NFL, you have 4-5 years to show it.

So for him, uncertainty can be unsettling and he really needed to make this year his year. He didn’t get the opportunity to entrench himself as a starter. We had staff turnover. So he needed to make a decision.

My frustration is that if you get that potential on campus you have to keep them there.

At this point, it is what it is.
 
Based on Pierce's interview on LHN, I think the deal with Kash was we didn't have enough scholarship $ to go around, so Kash would have to go partial scholarship (or even more partial than he already was). It was a miscalculation by Pierce as to how valuable Kash was going to be compared with some other players, but that sometimes happens.

Pierce is exceptional at identifying and recruiting pitchers. He's made a lot of good moves, and only a few bad moves in his tenure here thus far. Apparently, the HS and JC coaches in Texas mostly like the guy. Perfection doesn't exist in baseball. Pierce is a good one. And by the way, my crystal ball says Alaniz, former Longhorn and the HS Coach from Sinton, will be on our staff before too long...
 
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Pierce apparently doesn't know jack squat about base running. His teams are pretty lousy at that aspect of the game. (see, he's not perfect)

We may have the brains of Albert Einstein on the mound, and Stephen Hawking at the plate, but we're the kids on the short bus on the base pads.

But other than that obvious weakness, he's a really, really good baseball coach, and we're fortunate to have him.

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Phil Elliott said:
You guys who wanna fire Pierce are out of your damn minds. Can you not see what replacing coaches every 3-4 years has done to the football program? Pierce is our guy and he knows the game.
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Yep. (well, except for base running...)
 
Chop said:
Yep. (well, except for base running...)
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Yep, and notice who's the 3B coach, and refuses to take himself off so one of the other coaches can actually do it right, while he can tend to matters in the dugout...
 
FWHORN said:
The only argument the Pierce haters have is 2019, they cling to it desperately refusing to acknowledge that a single losing season sometimes happens, and by the way in 2019 every injury imaginable seemed to happen that year and those injuries and some just plain bad luck took a solid team and just carved the heart out of it.

Hell Augie had two losing seasons over his tenure at Texas and five teams that didn't even make a regional. And before you say that was late in his tenure, his first losing season was season 2 and he didn't even make a regional until his third full season.

Gus made the CWS seven of his first eight years but that was a different era so comparing Pierce to him is apples to watermelon difference. Pierce wasn't my first choice back on 2016 but lets not forget how many coaches passed on the opportunity, Pierce was the best choice who was willing to come and he has done nothing in his five full seasons to merit the kind of disdain and outright hatred from some of the Texas fan base.
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FWHORN said:
Blaming this one on Pierce is a stretch, he did right by the kid who is now having a breakout season with someone else. That happens and it is just baseball with the limited scholarships compared to other sports.

The anti Pierce negativity is really something I don't get. In five full seasons at Texas he has 3 Omaha appearances, a couple of conference titles and he has shown himself to be a strong recruiter and generally good guy. So his record has done nothing to call into question his job. But we should have the elite of the elite the naysayers cry, well that doesnt address the other problem which is exactly who is Texas going to go and get if it fires a coach who makes it to Omaha in over 50% of the seasons he coached. The Horns didnt exactly have elite coaches knocking down the door back in 2016 so who exactly are you going to get to replace him? The move to the SEC is a year away, barring a collapse by Texas Pierce is the guy to help Texas baseball make that transition.
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By announcing Augie's departure during the Tournament Selection Show, the Athletic Dept gave the schools with proven coaches time to keep their coach.
 
WRT base running, I see a guy who is being aggressive on the base paths. Perhaps he should back off, but I endorse running and forcing the other guys to make a play.

BTW O'Sullivan at UF hasnt been to Omaha since 2018 and he was our 1st choice to replace Augie.
 
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