First Two Texas Players with NIL deals ... can you guess who?

[mb227]

Nah, they "pay" for scholarships with blood, sweat and tears.
They put their future health and well being on the line everyday for our entertainment.

So, how do D-III student athletes pay?

(you know, the ones without scholarship capacity because, Division III)

 

[SabreHorn]

mb,

Please
don’t believe the hype of “ we don’t give athletic scholarships”

Try to find a Harvard or Princeton player paying tuition. Same is true at Trinity, Austin College, Hamden Sydney, and dozens of other D3 schools. NCAA turns a blind eye just like they do to D-1.

I personally have arranged for about a dozen kids to get a free education at smaller schools, all for playing football.

 

[NJlonghorn]

Try to find a Harvard or Princeton player paying tuition. Same is true at Trinity, Austin College, Hamden Sydney, and dozens of other D3 schools. NCAA turns a blind eye just like they do to D-1.

I can't speak to the others, but I am familiar with the Harvard and Princeton programs.

First, in direct response to your challenge -- here's an article about the highest-ranked football recruit Harvard landed last year. He did not get a full ride. And no, that isn't unusual.

Harvard and Princeton are D1, not D3, but the Ivy League rules do prohibit merit-based aid, including athletic and academic scholarships. So in that respect, they are similar to D3 programs.

But the Ivy League rules do allow need-based aid. And the HYP Ivies (Harvard Yale Princeton) are bar-none the most generous schools in the country when it comes to need-based aid. Kids with family income under $65k (over 20% of last year's freshman class at all 3 schools, and undoubtedly a larger fraction of revenue-sport athletes) get a full ride. In fact, athletes get LESS aid than they otherwise would, because the typical full-ride package includes a computer as well as a stipend to cover travel and incidentals --- which until recently were prohibited under NCAA rules.

For what it's worth, HYP kids with family income between $65k and $100k pay under $10k per year (with aid covering full tuition, as well as partial room and board). And well over half of all students get some need-based aid -- including those with incomes up to around $200k.

 

[moondog_LFZ]

I'm not asking them to put their health and well being on the line. That's their choice.

Do you buy tickets to games, sports packages to watch on television, tailgate, post on fan boards and in general spend a good amount of time and money on Longhorn football?
Of course you're asking them to be there.

 

[bystander]

Do you buy tickets to games, sports packages to watch on television, tailgate, post on fan boards and in general spend a good amount of time and money on Longhorn football?
Of course you're asking them to be there.

No. I don't buy into the idea that they have to do it. They don't. Nobody has to. The fact that I go is supportive of them. It's certainly not an expectation. They seem to love the adulation. My money goes to the school. What do I get out of it? Time spent in a crowd watching people more athletic than I; people who have a large case of vanity and egomania. It's their call.

 

[Statalyzer]

no...most do it with hopes of huge contracts.

Not sure about most. Plenty of them are just hoping to get major playing time in a big game just once.

I don't really care if players get a product endorsements in and of itself . . . . The issue is that now hiring recruits and players is now legal, or at least laundered through product endorsements.

Exactly my issue too. There is no real difference between "they can profit off their own image" and "pay for play" - you just pay de facto salaries and then agree that the whole team appears in a commercial or everybody signs a tshirt.

I didn't think jerseys were sold with player's names on them. Used not to - has that changed in the past few years?

At least not official ones while the player was in school, but that was such a farce to me. If we're going to claim that we're not using a player's "NIL" in paraphernalia, playing make-believe that a #16 Clemson jersey from 2018-2020 isn't a Trevor Lawrence jersey isn't fooling anybody. Even more disingenuous were video games - you have a Clemson quarterback who's a 6'6" white guy wearing a #16 jersey with amazing passing abilities based off of Trevor Lawrence's stats, so claiming it's not Trevor Lawrence just because your game renamed him "Quarterback Number16" instead was incredibly disingenuous. Might as well have just named him Lever Tawrence and then still claimed with a straight face that it wasn't him, it would have been no less unreasonable.

 

[HalRex]

Wonder what the total cost would be to receive D1 level athletic training (and all that entails), exposure, platform and promotion. Oh, and of course, a degree from a major university along with living quarters, meals, tutoring etc.
The typical student must pay to receive the training and education to move on to the professional career of their choosing.

 

[Pomspoms]

Well one thing is for sure with the NIL in place the players will now be well compensated for all the hard work, blood, sweat and tears they put in. This to go with free education, dorms, meals, girls, etc.
Dang it, I went to college 32 years too early. What a great time to be a college athlete!.

I was thinking, each player will have an extra motivation or a new enthusiasm, or new energy as they are getting up a six a.m. running sprints, running stands, lifting weights, watching film etc. while each day their bank account gets fatter. A little smile (or big) has to be on their faces.
USA is a wonderful place to live.
Oh wait.......
No, this capitalist country is repressive, racist, bigoted, white supremist, patriotic, ugly history, no opportunity, no freedoms, can't thrive, etc. We need a revolution with rioting and looting and burning things down and assaulting others to make this country a better place to live.

 

[X Misn Tx]

The horse is out of the barn on this. It goes to them.

I for one and glad. Now what do we need to do with all of our comapnies to create a NIL consortium?