Extension for Augie ?
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ElginHotSausage
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DMN says it is 2 yr. extension, giving him 3 total more years.
ElginHotSausage
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It is now confirmed and announced by Patterson.
Yeah, TexasSports.com, in trying to explain the justification for Augie's raise, is exaggerating just a bit how far the team got in the CWS this year:
"one win shy of the CWS championship"
Must be some summer substitute writer whose sport is soccer.
I do wish the team had, indeed, made it to the Championship Series and won the whole thing. Tough loss in a close one in their last game of the year.
"one win shy of the CWS championship"
Must be some summer substitute writer whose sport is soccer.
I do wish the team had, indeed, made it to the Championship Series and won the whole thing. Tough loss in a close one in their last game of the year.
Brad Austin
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Brad Austin
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Since we mostly a great job overall of preventing the deep blast, and also typically excel at pitching, I'm hoping the ball change will give us a little advantage. By upping the offensive prowess while not hurting us as much on the defensive side as it does most others. Our brand of offense seemed to suffer more than most with the dead balls, bats, and monster park.
UT Horn Fan
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NBHorn7
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The only thing that recording the out in that situation would accomplish is sending the game to the next inning still tied.
That's far from winning the game and moving to the championship series.
Somebody at Bellmont better be working on an extension for Skip Johnson. He will be getting head coaching job offers from teams just for what he can do with a pitching staff alone. He has complete control of the pitching staff and recruited them all.
He is sought out by some of the top pitchers in MLB to personally coach and advise them, such as Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw. Don't think that recruits don't know this and it certainly helps him pull in top notch pitchers to Texas. It wouldn't surprise me to see a MLB team go after him as a pitching coach.
He has kept the baseball program from going completely into the dumpster the last few seasons. Even in last year's disaster his staff had the sixth best era in the nation. I hate to think what the record would have been if the pitching had only been good instead of outstanding.
It was even better this year without a proven closer for most of the season. The injury to Peters and Curtis still regaining his movement on his pitches recovering from TJ surgery was also a big factor in it not being even better than it was.
The last three years Texas Baseball has been offensively challenged. That's just a fact for anybody that has been watching the games over that period. It wins on great pitching and defense.
That's far from winning the game and moving to the championship series.
Somebody at Bellmont better be working on an extension for Skip Johnson. He will be getting head coaching job offers from teams just for what he can do with a pitching staff alone. He has complete control of the pitching staff and recruited them all.
He is sought out by some of the top pitchers in MLB to personally coach and advise them, such as Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw. Don't think that recruits don't know this and it certainly helps him pull in top notch pitchers to Texas. It wouldn't surprise me to see a MLB team go after him as a pitching coach.
He has kept the baseball program from going completely into the dumpster the last few seasons. Even in last year's disaster his staff had the sixth best era in the nation. I hate to think what the record would have been if the pitching had only been good instead of outstanding.
It was even better this year without a proven closer for most of the season. The injury to Peters and Curtis still regaining his movement on his pitches recovering from TJ surgery was also a big factor in it not being even better than it was.
The last three years Texas Baseball has been offensively challenged. That's just a fact for anybody that has been watching the games over that period. It wins on great pitching and defense.
Brad Austin
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Did someone really use Augie's career win total to refute the statistical FACT we had an average offense this season? And the past few years. Of 64 teams in tourney, Texas batted .246...34th over the course of the postseason.
The pitching was phenomenal...period. We ranked 3rd during playoffs at 1.25 ERA, and 13th in opposing avg. at .214. The offense did just enough to squeeze us by in many big games that our impressive pitching owned.
Jumping on people for pointing out the offense clearly struggled much more than desired this season is ridiculous. As a TEAM they did excellent. How anyone could argue the pitching staff didn't enormously carry the struggling offense for the most part is beyond me.
The pitching was phenomenal...period. We ranked 3rd during playoffs at 1.25 ERA, and 13th in opposing avg. at .214. The offense did just enough to squeeze us by in many big games that our impressive pitching owned.
Jumping on people for pointing out the offense clearly struggled much more than desired this season is ridiculous. As a TEAM they did excellent. How anyone could argue the pitching staff didn't enormously carry the struggling offense for the most part is beyond me.
The negative comments about the details surrounding the last few years for the best man to ever coach a college baseball team is why he canned a lazy assistant coach for doing things like trying to recruit an offense from videos in his office at Disch Falk.
Word is that the team is playing in Palo Alto in March next year (with a bonus surprise). So my lady and I are scheduling a nice NorCal vacation around those many games including some days in Napa at the Wine Country Inn, one at Hearst Castle, some time around Pebble Beach, and some fun times in the City.
Life is good -- and so are Augie's fifteen trips to Omaha with five national championships to show for those trips (including two at Texas).
Word is that the team is playing in Palo Alto in March next year (with a bonus surprise). So my lady and I are scheduling a nice NorCal vacation around those many games including some days in Napa at the Wine Country Inn, one at Hearst Castle, some time around Pebble Beach, and some fun times in the City.
Life is good -- and so are Augie's fifteen trips to Omaha with five national championships to show for those trips (including two at Texas).
NBHorn7
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So is Skip Johnson, that as I said kept this baseball program from completely going into the dumpster.
To not even reference him is to show a complete lack of understanding of what has been going on with Texas baseball the past few years.
This team would have not come anywhere close to Omaha without his pitching staff that he has complete control over.
As also there would have been no success there once they got there.
It wasn't just Harmon that was lazy. It's a new day and time now and even the head coach gets out and actively recruits.
Augie doesn't do that.
Skip does all the pitching recruiting and that left only a young assistant in Nicholson to handle everything else.
You need all hands on deck in recruiting these day, no matter who you are. Young pitching recruits see Skip working with the Cy Young Award winner in the Texas bullpen and you bet they want to be part of that.
Texas hasn't produced a big time hitter in years. Mark Payton should have been one of the all time best lead off hitters in college baseball history. Instead he had to bat third and even cleanup because we simply had nobody else. Sometimes it was very visible that Mark felt that he had to try and drive in as many runs as possible and he swung at pitches he normally would lay off of. He was never meant to be a power hitter batting in the middle of the order. The only reason Payton came to Texas was because the head coach at Arizona State was let go after he committed NCAA infractions. He was going there till that happened.
Every type of batting order was tried to get more hitting in the line-up. Even a pitcher was put at DH that hadn't had a single at bat, that failed too.
There are many very good baseball programs out there now and head coaches at these programs go out and actively recruit because they have to in order to get the top players.
Scholarships in baseball are few compared to the roster size. It's very competive and that includes at both position players and pitching.
Success breeds success in those areas. The pitchers just keep on coming here, while we keep lacking in hitting year after year.
Johnson is more than holding up his side of the bargain.
If we could get even half the success on the offensive side of it we couldn't be stopped and that requires an all out effort by all coaches.
To not even reference him is to show a complete lack of understanding of what has been going on with Texas baseball the past few years.
This team would have not come anywhere close to Omaha without his pitching staff that he has complete control over.
As also there would have been no success there once they got there.
It wasn't just Harmon that was lazy. It's a new day and time now and even the head coach gets out and actively recruits.
Augie doesn't do that.
Skip does all the pitching recruiting and that left only a young assistant in Nicholson to handle everything else.
You need all hands on deck in recruiting these day, no matter who you are. Young pitching recruits see Skip working with the Cy Young Award winner in the Texas bullpen and you bet they want to be part of that.
Texas hasn't produced a big time hitter in years. Mark Payton should have been one of the all time best lead off hitters in college baseball history. Instead he had to bat third and even cleanup because we simply had nobody else. Sometimes it was very visible that Mark felt that he had to try and drive in as many runs as possible and he swung at pitches he normally would lay off of. He was never meant to be a power hitter batting in the middle of the order. The only reason Payton came to Texas was because the head coach at Arizona State was let go after he committed NCAA infractions. He was going there till that happened.
Every type of batting order was tried to get more hitting in the line-up. Even a pitcher was put at DH that hadn't had a single at bat, that failed too.
There are many very good baseball programs out there now and head coaches at these programs go out and actively recruit because they have to in order to get the top players.
Scholarships in baseball are few compared to the roster size. It's very competive and that includes at both position players and pitching.
Success breeds success in those areas. The pitchers just keep on coming here, while we keep lacking in hitting year after year.
Johnson is more than holding up his side of the bargain.
If we could get even half the success on the offensive side of it we couldn't be stopped and that requires an all out effort by all coaches.
NBHorn7
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I have never wanted Augie let go. I realize what he has done for the program, just as I realize what Coach Gus did for the program. But recruiting for various reasons became a problem for his teams too.
I don't think Nicholson can carry the load alone. He is still learning the lay of the land for recruiting in Texas.
Skip hands are full in recruiting for the pitching staff.
That doesn't leave many options left for helping Nicholson.
It's a big area to recruit by yourself, especially when new and not from the state.
Recruits know Skip and what he has done and is doing.
They don't know Nicholson and Texas plays in a non-friendly hitting ballpark also. He needs help and I see only one other coach on the staff. Recruits do know Augie and for a couple of years it would nice for him to assist Nicholson till he gets established.
I don't think Nicholson can carry the load alone. He is still learning the lay of the land for recruiting in Texas.
Skip hands are full in recruiting for the pitching staff.
That doesn't leave many options left for helping Nicholson.
It's a big area to recruit by yourself, especially when new and not from the state.
Recruits know Skip and what he has done and is doing.
They don't know Nicholson and Texas plays in a non-friendly hitting ballpark also. He needs help and I see only one other coach on the staff. Recruits do know Augie and for a couple of years it would nice for him to assist Nicholson till he gets established.
And Frank Anderson is just as responsible for our 2002 national championship and i would love to have him back and he just so happens to be right down the road in Houston, i think he is head and shoulders above Skip however i wouldn't wanna change anything until Skip does leave.
NBHorn7
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Let's see the 2002 team had the following players on it.
Dustin Mujewski
Omar Quintanilla
Tim Moss
Jeff Onterveros
J.D. Reininger
These were all good to great college players that could hit.
There was even Chris Carmichael and Brandon Fahey who were solid hitters off the bench.
The team batting average for that team was .304 and it wasn't
just because of the bats at the time.
The 2014 baseball team is nowhere near the hitting team the 2002 team was. If it was, Texas would be in possession of another national championship trophy.
So I think it's safe to say the bats played a very significant role all year in 2002 and in Omaha where Texas scored 28 runs in four games and gave up 19 runs.
Contrast that with where the 2014 team scored 13 runs in Omaha and gave up 8 with two shutouts in five games.
It also didn't hurt that Alan Bomar transferred to Texas after Iowa State eliminated their baseball program to become another starting pitcher on the 2002 team.
The last few years, as I have many times now, the only reason Texas baseball stayed afloat was the incredible pitching they had. The pitching even got better in 2014 without for the first time in years a proven closer and some key injuries to top pitchers. Texas edged out close low scoring games all the way to Omaha. Then did the same in the College World Series till eliminated in another low scoring close game on a swinging bunt in extra innings. It took a very fast batter that just beat the throw by Hinojosa.
Frank Anderson is not "head and shoulders" above Skip as a pitching coach. I can't think of anybody that would say that.
Maybe you should ask Clayton Kershaw about that or the other MLB pitchers that work with Skip.
Dustin Mujewski
Omar Quintanilla
Tim Moss
Jeff Onterveros
J.D. Reininger
These were all good to great college players that could hit.
There was even Chris Carmichael and Brandon Fahey who were solid hitters off the bench.
The team batting average for that team was .304 and it wasn't
just because of the bats at the time.
The 2014 baseball team is nowhere near the hitting team the 2002 team was. If it was, Texas would be in possession of another national championship trophy.
So I think it's safe to say the bats played a very significant role all year in 2002 and in Omaha where Texas scored 28 runs in four games and gave up 19 runs.
Contrast that with where the 2014 team scored 13 runs in Omaha and gave up 8 with two shutouts in five games.
It also didn't hurt that Alan Bomar transferred to Texas after Iowa State eliminated their baseball program to become another starting pitcher on the 2002 team.
The last few years, as I have many times now, the only reason Texas baseball stayed afloat was the incredible pitching they had. The pitching even got better in 2014 without for the first time in years a proven closer and some key injuries to top pitchers. Texas edged out close low scoring games all the way to Omaha. Then did the same in the College World Series till eliminated in another low scoring close game on a swinging bunt in extra innings. It took a very fast batter that just beat the throw by Hinojosa.
Frank Anderson is not "head and shoulders" above Skip as a pitching coach. I can't think of anybody that would say that.
Maybe you should ask Clayton Kershaw about that or the other MLB pitchers that work with Skip.
centexorange
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If Augie isn't the greatest coach in the 100+ year history of college baseball, he's in the top 2. He should stay on as long as he wants. And in that sad day when he should pass on, if he wants his corpse to manage the team, well then doggone it, he's earned it
No disrespect here to start off but what gives someone the right to stay on way past there prime just because they were great at one time? I use Penn State as an example here. That program fell to the ground after giving Joe way to many extra years. These coaches never feel its time to step down. It take balls to stand up and do what is best for a program rather then saying hes earned it. Im not saying don't show the man respect and possibly talk behind closed doors about things but I don't feel its right for a program to hold on to a man just because of history either. DKR was one of the few who knew the game was changing and he was smart enough and respectful enough to step down when he did. Not that he couldn't have had a few more good years but he saw the writing on the wall. Im not saying Augie is passed his prime but when that time comes I hope he realizes it and will do whats right.
No disrespect here to start off but what gives someone the right to stay on way past there prime just because they were great at one time? I use Penn State as an example here. That program fell to the ground after giving Joe way to many extra years. These coaches never feel its time to step down. It take balls to stand up and do what is best for a program rather then saying hes earned it. Im not saying don't show the man respect and possibly talk behind closed doors about things but I don't feel its right for a program to hold on to a man just because of history either. DKR was one of the few who knew the game was changing and he was smart enough and respectful enough to step down when he did. Not that he couldn't have had a few more good years but he saw the writing on the wall. Im not saying Augie is passed his prime but when that time comes I hope he realizes it and will do whats right.
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