Expelled

I saw it, it was great. Seeing the evolutionists get tongue tied as they try to explain their "science" was well worth the admission.

Dawkins looked like a fool.
 
meh?

so you went to a movie narrated by a washed-up gameshow host to learn about biology and were underwhelmed?
 
And you're impressed that an agenda-driven editor was able to make their opponents look bad? Michael Moore must be an idol for you.
 
Saw it this weekend and I liked it.

It had a vibe to it that reminded me of Al Gore's global warning piece but had less of a "poor me" influence in comparing it to Gore's documentary.

I though it was a little alarming that a christian based school like Baylor would remove profs for mentioning much less teaching Intelligent design.

I would have liked to see actual debate on the subject instead of the edited interview responses. Maybe all of the time used on the 1940's-and 1950's black and white reels could have been used on actual discussion on debate.

Ben Stein has had an interesting life. Anybody know the story of his father?
 
This thread is going to hurt.

If this movie impressed you at all then you've got an agenda much larger than that of the "evolutionists".
 
What the poster found alarming about Baylor and ID, I find to be to their credit. It's good to see an institution balancing it's academic reputation with it Christian philosophical foundations. Bravo Baylor.

I know nothing about the film. I like Ben Stein as a TV personality, and can turn a blind eye to the fact that he is one of the last of the staunch Nixon men. His opinions I couldn't care less about.
 
I think that this thread, like many on Hornfans, is showing that as modernity transitions into post modernity, that there is growing tension between Christianity, or any fundamentalist belief and the emerging secularism.
The very foundational assumptions about what is true, has shifted to is there even any truth. This is having a polarising effect on our society in the West, and I believe it will lead do it's downfall.
 
The misrepresentation of intelligent design as science is laughable. Creationism by any other name is still ...creationism.
 
Yeah,

Alarming may not have been the correct word to use.

Back when I was growing up and even when I was in college, Baylor seemed to have a more "Christian" association with their school. Not quite like Nortre Dame but in that same realm. It just struck me funny watching this movie and seeing Baylor involved with this subject.

Again, I would have really liked to see more interactive debate between the two sides.

I did feel akward in the theater when the crowd started applauding the movie at it's end. There were a lot of "VERY CHRISTIAN" folks in the theater. I've always kept my religious beliefs to myself.
 
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Science has nothing to do with supposed post modern thinking, especialy the all truths are social constructs and are equal doctrine. Science specificially proposes that it is the best method yet developed to unearth the truth, whatever it is, about a real objective reality.

It is religion that dallies with ideas outside of objective reality, and that asks for an equivalency in respect for ideas of faith vs science. And, when one, as you have in the past, try to equate science as "faith" of a different color, one is being quite post modern.
 
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