Education (Not Just UT)—Voters shoot down Bonds; the Educrats are Pissed

[nashhorn]

Your talk of righteous indignation is the sweatier in my tea. Could not possibly agree more with every sentiment as I have told the story of my two, a daughter and a granddaughter that should have been shoo’ins unable to get accepted, ending up being graduates of Vanderbilt and Johns Hopkins respectively. A part of me says I should drop my support of athletics as well but I just can’t do it. I stick with the athletes, male and female, which reminds me I just got a parking ticket at the soccer game which I’d like to give to CDC - pisses me off big time.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Money is fungible. If any of you guys are giving money to UT or any mainstream college, whether it's an academic or athletic program, you are supporting Marxism. I have never given a penny to UTD or Baylor Law School since graduating and never will. UT Austin is worse than either one.

 

[Chop]

The vast bulk of the incoming Freshman class is from the Top 5%, or Top 6% or whatever it is, automatic admissions.

 

[Chop]

Donors who donate a professorship $$$ endowment should get to pick the professor.

 

[Chop]

This would satisfy you all:

Bring back the provisional admissions ("Prov") Summer school program.

If you can't pull a 2.5 in those classes over Summer school, The University is probably not the right place for you.

 

[Chop]

The aggies used to have two deals for the not-quite-admitted students. I know people who did both:

1. Sign up for ROTC and they'll let you in with substandard grades and SAT/ACT.
2. The "Blinn plan". Sort of like our old Prov Summer program, but this one lasted a whole year, or at least a semester I think. Basically, she went to Blinn for a year and if she made at least a 2.5 (or whatever the cutoff was) in a specified core group of classes, then she was automatically admitted into aTm.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

The aggies used to have two deals for the not-quite-admitted students. I know people who did both:

1. Sign up for ROTC and they'll let you in with substandard grades and SAT/ACT.
2. The "Blinn plan". Sort of like our old Prov Summer program, but this one lasted a whole year, or at least a semester I think. Basically, she went to Blinn for a year and if she made at least a 2.5 (or whatever the cutoff was) in a specified core group of classes, then she was automatically admitted into aTm.

One reason aggy referred to it as "Blinndergarten".

 

[Monahorns]

This would satisfy you all:

Bring back the provisional admissions ("Prov") Summer school program.

If you can't pull a 2.5 in those classes over Summer school, The University is probably not the right place for you.

They have something called the CAP Program where if you get a 3.5 of higher at UTSA or another satellite school for 2 semesters then you can transfer into UT.

 

[Chop]

They have something called the CAP Program where if you get a 3.5 of higher at UTSA or another satellite school for 2 semesters then you can transfer into UT.

That's fairly reasonable.

The remaining issue is the social aspect and the overall college experience. If you miss your Freshman year, you'll still get the educational benefits, but it will be a bit more difficult to "break in" and find your niche on the non-academic side.

 

[mchammer]

 

[Monahorns]

I think it was #8 when I graduated from there. Good to see they are keeping it going strong! Hookem!

 

[Chop]

The gayest university in the United States:

where 38% of students identify as LGBTQetc.

Nearly 40% of Brown University students identify as LGBTQ+

The number of Brown University students identifying as LGBTQ+ has doubled since 2010, according to a new poll from the university’s student paper, w...

www.universityworldnews.com

 

[Chop]

Bravo to the Engineering College!

Is our Petroleum Engineering still #1?

 

[mchammer]

The gayest university in the United States:












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where 38% of students identify as LGBTQetc.

Nearly 40% of Brown University students identify as LGBTQ+

The number of Brown University students identifying as LGBTQ+ has doubled since 2010, according to a new poll from the university’s student paper, w...

www.universityworldnews.com

Most brainwashed.

 

[Mr. Deez]

The gayest university in the United States:












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where 38% of students identify as LGBTQetc.

Nearly 40% of Brown University students identify as LGBTQ+

The number of Brown University students identifying as LGBTQ+ has doubled since 2010, according to a new poll from the university’s student paper, w...

www.universityworldnews.com

It's a bunch of crap. People in blue areas claim LGBTQ status because of the social benefits or confers, especially if you're white. However, if you look at the definitions, there's a lot of subjective crap in the mix like "queer" or "questioning." How many of those 38 percent are actually engaging in homosexual or bisexual conduct or cross dressing in their daily lives? I'll bet far fewer.

 

[guy4321]

It's a bunch of crap. People in blue areas claim LGBTQ status because of the social benefits or confers, especially if you're white. However, if you look at the definitions, there's a lot of subjective crap in the mix like "queer" or "questioning." How many of those 38 percent are actually engaging in homosexual or bisexual conduct or cross dressing in their daily lives? I'll bet far fewer.

There's a joke about something being brown when discussion homosexuals. Perhaps good foresight by Brown University? I'll leave it at that.

 

[Chop]

There's a joke about something being brown when discussion homosexuals. Perhaps good foresight by Brown University? I'll leave it at that.

Now if only they had South Carolina's mascot.

 

[Chop]

Aha!

Here's the problem:

Not enough focus on the students' self-esteem.

Especially at the K-12 level. A falling away from the highly successful pro-self esteem movement corresponds with a decline in educational standards. Boosting and protecting the self-esteem of students should be a top priority. Here's a nifty article from the U. of California system:

Research Review Shows Self-Esteem Has Long-Term Benefits

In recent years, self-esteem has fallen out of favor in the scientific literature and in the popular media as an important factor for life outcomes. But a new large research review conducted by psychologists at the University of California, Davis, and the University of Bern suggests that high...

www.ucdavis.edu

“This research shows what most people already believe — that self-esteem matters,” Robins said.

 

[Chop]

 

[Chop]

 

[mchammer]

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[Run Pincher]

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You say trust the science? Is that what you're saying?

 

[nashhorn]

Wasn’t it the 70-80’s when self esteem gurus and Dress for success was the rage? Uh, gave some of those talks myself.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Aha!

Here's the problem:

Not enough focus on the students' self-esteem.

Especially at the K-12 level. A falling away from the highly successful pro-self esteem movement corresponds with a decline in educational standards. Boosting and protecting the self-esteem of students should be a top priority. Here's a nifty article from the U. of California system:

Research Review Shows Self-Esteem Has Long-Term Benefits

In recent years, self-esteem has fallen out of favor in the scientific literature and in the popular media as an important factor for life outcomes. But a new large research review conducted by psychologists at the University of California, Davis, and the University of Bern suggests that high...

www.ucdavis.edu

“This research shows what most people already believe — that self-esteem matters,” Robins said.

I actually do think self-esteem makes a big difference. The problem is that nobody in education knows what fosters real self-esteem. They spent decades telling every kid that he is special and can do anything. They made them feel good in the moment but set them up for failure and long term poor self-esteem. What they should have been doing is trying to direct kids toward productive things they're actually good at. The sense of accomplishment they would have felt would have given them real self-esteem.

 

[mchammer]

I actually do think self-esteem makes a big difference. The problem is that nobody in education knows what fosters real self-esteem. They spent decades telling every kid that he is special and can do anything. They made them feel good in the moment but set them up for failure and long term poor self-esteem. What they should have been doing is trying to direct kids toward productive things they're actually good at. The sense of accomplishment they would have felt would have given them real self-esteem.

Dems have undermined programs that build self-esteem such as scouting and church youth groups.

 

[Chop]

Wasn’t it the 70-80’s when self esteem gurus and Dress for success was the rage? Uh, gave some of those talks myself.

Ha! You were a self esteem guru!

 

[Chop]

Dress for success.

Are you a Spring, Summer, Winter, or Fall?

 

[nashhorn]

All the above.

 

[Chop]

All the above.

A man of every season.

 

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

I actually do think self-esteem makes a big difference. The problem is that nobody in education knows what fosters real self-esteem. They spent decades telling every kid that he is special and can do anything. They made them feel good in the moment but set them up for failure and long term poor self-esteem. What they should have been doing is trying to direct kids toward productive things they're actually good at. The sense of accomplishment they would have felt would have given them real self-esteem.

I also believe self-esteem makes a difference. Just in my own house I could see each of my three sons take pretty different paths based on their own relative assessments of their strengths and weaknesses. ie. One perceived himself as the "jock" of the family and chose/acted accordingly. One perceived himself as the "brain" and pursued academics much more. The truth is that they were all pretty close to start with. The only difference was the effort level they applied to various paths. Self-esteem can play a similar role in how hard you try for an outcome. If you feel confident and capable then you try harder because you believe you have the necessary attributes to pull it off.

There is not as much difference between self-esteem and narcissism as the article tries to imply. Narcissism is in my opinion typically a more outward display and is likely more an indication of an extrovert. so .... It's ok to think you are the best at something, just don't say it out loud to everyone else.

The self-esteem push fails largely because/when it praises for artificially low bars. eg. it is ok to praise a 4 year old for coloring inside the lines. It is bad to praise a 7 year old for the same simple outcome.