Death penalty or no for convicted Boston terrorist?

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Should there be a death peanalty or not for the just convicted, 30 counts, Boston marathon terrorist?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-04-08-13-35-08

"When you ask people their opinion of the death penalty, there are a number who say it should only be reserved for the horrific cases," he said. "Here you have what is one of the most horrific acts of terrorism on U.S. soil in American history, so if you are going to reserve the death penalty for the worst of the worse, this is it."

Liz Norden, the mother of two sons who lost parts of their legs in the bombing, said death would be the appropriate punishment: "I don't understand how anyone could have done what he did."

Clear and premeditated mass murder should be punished by the death penalty in my opinion. There can be no doubt of his guilt here either whether he was influenced or not by his brother.(my opinion of course)

What say you?
 
Bake for 90 minutes at 225 degrees and televise it for the next turd thinking about such an act.
 
He should get the same due process any other defendant deserves, but ultimately, yes, he deserves to fry and preferably with some pain.
 
What say you?

I'm against the death penalty in all cases, so I say no. But I understand where and when I live ... so I get it. I am with iatrogenic though -- put executions on prime time TV. Why do it in secrecy in the middle of the night if it is just?
 
In a text message to her sons' supporter Timur Rudaev, Zubeidat Tsraneav called the convicted killer 'my precious boy' before going on a rant against the US.

'America is the real terrorist and everyone knows that,' she wrote in the text, which was later shared on the Russian social media site VKontakte and sent to the news blog Vocativ.

'My boys are the best of the best,' Mrs Tsarnaev added.
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of course he gets death
In this trial all it takes is one juror to vote against death. The last execution in Massachusetts was in 1947. Some speculate that lack of death penalty sentences is due to the high percentage of Catholics there.
 
I'm thinking a lifetime in prison with a daily dose of anal rape may be more appropriate.
 
I'm against the death penalty in all cases, so I say no. But I understand where and when I live ... so I get it. I am with iatrogenic though -- put executions on prime time TV. Why do it in secrecy in the middle of the night if it is just?

I respect death penalty opponents who are consistent. Many will look at specific cases that are especially outrageous (like this one or the first one I recall noticing, the James Byrd murder) and get soft on the issue. It takes balls to oppose it in those cases.
 
Massachusettes needs more tough guys like you, Taps.
Doesn't have anything to do with being tough. Death is part of life. Eventually he will die and burn in Hell with his brother:yippee:
Are you a vegetarian or do you let others kill for you?
 
Even though the trial is in Mass this is a federal trial which is why the death penalty is on the table.
 
Even though the trial is in Mass this is a federal trial which is why the death penalty is on the table.

Yes, but I think the issue is whether or not a jury of Massachusetts residents will impose a death sentence even if it's available to them.
 
I don’t know where you believe you are going with that, but OK. I’m not falling into the taps trap – this will be my last comment on the thread.

I understand belief in the death penalty. I don’t understand comments like “I’d pay to be the executioner.”
 
I don’t understand comments like “I’d pay to be the executioner.”
If he gets the death sentence someone's got to do it. I'd be more than happy to flip the switch, push the plunger, or pull the trigger. Humans get paid to kill others every day. I'm more than happy to give back.
 
As I undestand it, the jury has to be unanimous to impose a death penalty in a federal trial. It's not just that the people in Massachusetts have different political beliefs. In Texas, the last time I carefully followed a potential death penalty trial, the jurors didn't have the option for a "life without parole" sentence. If a seriously dangerous person was convicted of a capital crime, the jurors' only option to ensure they wouldn't be freed to kill again was to impose the death penalty.

The death penalty is always more comfortable in the abstract. Politicians and the general public typically judge criminals only by their crimes. Jurors have to sit relatively close to defendandts, hear from and see defendants' friends and families. It's a lot harder to punish and even convict once you are introduced to a real human being. People with unlimited budget for defense get an enormous advantage from that.
 
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It's a lot harder to punish and even convict once you are introduced to a real human being.
I was a jury foreman in a trial where the accused followed a family home because he liked the rims on their car, ducked under the garage door as it was closing and shot the husband. Fortunately the husband recovered. Instead of putting myself in the criminal's shoes, I put myself in the victim's shoes. A wife and a young boy seeing the most important man in their lives shot in front of them.

Now, think about 8-year-old Martin Richard who was literally eviscerated in front of his father. That's all I need to think about in order to do the right thing.
 
Not trying to be agumentative Taps. How long was the trial? OJ Simpson, Cullen Davis or Walker Railey would have never have become sympathetic figures in a two day trail.
 
By the way, I'd have no problems with the death penalty for the Boson Marathon Bomber, who is guilty and was competently defended. I tend not to be an enthusiastic advocate of Texas application of the death penalty because too often defendants have lethargic or marginally competent defense. With all the muscle behind anti-death penalty appeals, new trials, etc., I see life in prison with no opportunity for parole as more cost effective.
 
Not trying to be argumentative Taps. How long was the trial? OJ Simpson, Cullen Davis or Walker Railey would have never have become sympathetic figures in a two day trail.
The defense put plenty of character witnesses on the stand for the accused in my trial. He was portrayed as a good kid with a ****** childhood that was deficient intellectually, who fell in with the wrong crowd and was pressured into committing this crime. Some jurors felt sympathy for him.

Tsarnaev has a mountain of victims and their family members to overcome. In my mind no amount of time spent on his defense is going to change that, but all he needs is one juror that has a hard time being responsible for putting anyone to death.
 

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