Cult following.

Every poster on this thread is part of the problem. Including me. We could accept responsibility and put aside pathetic partisan bickering that is the center of the blame game. Quit participating in the maintenance of a culture that requires winners and losers but ultimately makes us all lose. But we won't, because we are afraid that if we do, the other guy won't and he'll "win". The Founders worked tirelessly to create a system that was vague enough to not piss off anyone too much and we want to see them as flawless, but they also owned slaves and treated women like chattel. We are a species that has sought to destroy ourselves since the first caveman looked next door with envy. We will live, we will *****, we will die, and nothing will change. Carry on my wayward sons, I've got some consuming to do for the good of nothing.
 
I don't like either of them and wont vote for either.

The discussion about what caused the eco disaster is useful but often misdirected by those who have a favorite dog in the fight.

The government as a whole is out of control and spending money it does not have at an inopportune time. We need more revenues and less spending. Try telling that to somebody who pays a lot of taxes already or to somebody who is on social security and you will find one person opposed to raising taxes and one who is opposed to cutting expenditures.

Republicans want to cut food stamps (ok by me) and dems want to raise taxes (ditto here) but neither will do both.

Take a look at the opinions of the Dallas Fed last week if you want to see a way out of this thicket. But somebody in congress needs to start swinging an axe sometime soon or we are finished.

And that does not seem possible right now.

I like Obama and Romney as individuals but neither has offered a genuine alternative to pick from and neither will.
 
I have been insulted on this thread about 100 times. I've been called communist, stupid, "on the dole" and other epithets simply because I have a different viewpoint than the conservatives.

The GOP surely has become the party of meanness.
 
Yeah, insults have only gone one way. Get real!. This board has been a clusterf*ck all the way around and it's been bad both ways.

"The other side is so mean" is just more of the blind partisan dishonesty that's made this board a trainwreck. Sorry but it's true.

Here's a sample of warm fuzzies lobbed in the last day. Any guess who these are aimed at?

"Your bitching and posts are childish and erratic. They make little sense"
"I don't think he's calling her a POS because she doesn't support Obama. I think he's calling her a POS because she spews inflammatory and shrill rhetoric every chance she gets and generally acts like an ignorant choad" (this aimed at a male poster)

"You can't have an adult conversation with simpletons and the uninformed."

"God you're dense. Or you lack a sarcasm meter."
"It sailed right over the top of his head."
 
"Is it any wonder having a President that divides the People that both halves of America can't get along"

Obama's not that one that divided America. We were actually getting along pretty well during the Clinton years and in spite of things like Lewinskygate and the dot-com crash. Even 9/11 brought us together.

And then Cheney & Rumsfeld decided that it would be great to start an unpopular war in 2003. That's pretty much the moment where you can pinpoint the division.

Congress maintained that division very well, from the blue takeover in 2006 through the GOP regaining it in 2010. Obama inherited the division, just like the recession. While I admit he hasn't done a whole lot to counter the division, he really doesn't have any options open to him. Just go along with whatever the HoR does and hope the Senate can use clearer reasoning.
 
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