Coronavirus

Texas would be well-advised to avoid comparisons of its current situation with the current situation in other places, such as NY/NJ. Instead, you should compare where you are to where other places were a few weeks ago.

For example, I live in a far-out New Jersey suburb. By way of comparison, think the Woodlands or the Sugarland/Missouri City area. Mileage-wise, we are farther from NYC than that. But our density, demographics, and lifestyle are similar to those areas.

Three weeks ago, my county had just a few confirmed cases and 0 deaths. People were doing some social distancing, but it wasn't rigorous. Kinda like what I hear is happening in the Houston area right now.

Currently, my county has thousands of confirmed cases and approaching 100 deaths -- roughly one death per 4000 people -- and both numbers are growing rapidly. It seems inevitable that we will end up with a death rate of at least 0.1%, even with social distancing (which we are doing much more rigorously now).
A lot of traffic between those areas and NYC.
 
Where did you read that? It is wildly inconsistent with what I've heard from many sources, including Fox News.

My understanding is that a disproportionate share of deaths (but far from all) come from vulnerable populations. That includes:
  • everyone over 70
  • everyone with asthma, COPD, or other respiratory ailments
  • everyone who has ever had cancer
  • everyone with hypertension
  • everyone with diabetes
People live with these conditions for decades.
It was in Italy, quoted from a expert. Obviously the population was older in Italy than here. But you are ignoring all the folks in nursing homes who are getting it. Average life expectancy in a nursing home is 6 months anyway. You are obviously no expert, so there. :smokin:
 
MC,

Sidebar on your location. A few decades ago, Jim Duke and I were having a beer at Kay's Lounge discussing Texas offering him the presidency of the San Antonio Medical School. I thought it was a great deal. He loved to hunt and fish - close to Hill Country hunting and not too far from Port A to go offshore. He didn't want to leave LifeFlight or Houston.

In frustration, I asked him where was his second favorite place he had lived, and Hillsborough and the Cesspool on the Brazos were not acceptable answers. He told me that when he was at Columbia, he and Betty lived in a small town in New Jersey. (I've heard a lot of stories come out of his mouth, but this was the most astounding) He said they were out in the country and it seemed like a million miles from NYC, yet it took him less than 30 minutes to get to Columbia.

The great James H "Red" Duke, Jr loved living in New Jersey. I told him that had to have something to do with being an Aggie yell leader.
 
I bought 18 bottles of wine when the pandemic started, at Specs Sangre! But I grabbed two mixed red sweet wines. Nasty! My fault, we like Cabs, Merlots, and Malbecs. I like Shiner beer but I’m trying to excersize more and stay in shape during the pandemic so wine is our go to.
 
My city/county are still building these things here. Forget 'flatten the curve' our local govt motto seems to be "behind the curve."
 
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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot was forced to break her own quarantine advice to ....

Before looking, can you guess what life-threatening drama caused her to break quarantine?
She wanted a haircut
Her excuse was that she "takes her personal hygiene very seriously."

Another example of how Democrats believe they’re above you and entitled to things you are not. It is a two-tiered system. There are rules for you, and then there are rules for them. Stop voting for them
Coronavirus & Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot Violates Her Own Quarantine Advice to Get a Haircut | National Review
 
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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot was forced to break her own quarantine advice to ....

Before looking, can you guess what life-threatening drama caused her to break quarantine?
She wanted a haircut
Her excuse was that she "takes her personal hygiene very seriously."

Another example of how Democrats believe they’re above you and entitled to things you are not. It is a two-tired system. There are rules for you, and then there are rules for them. Stop voting for them
Coronavirus & Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot Violates Her Own Quarantine Advice to Get a Haircut | National Review

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My weight is holding steady thanks to plenty of time on this sweet machine.

Wife and kids are home, so our porn consumption is steady at zero. (Despite Deez' contention, we are really pretty damned vanilla.)

Alcohol consumption is probably up a bit, but not much. Weed consumption, like porn, is steady at zero.

Gaming, yeah, up thanks to the kids.

Making a point to not eat more but I will admit it's difficult, again because with two college age kids at home, snack food is more prevalent than when it's just the wife and I.
I am on a Scott Addict these days (carbon frame)
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I am not sure if I am the only one who experience this, but ads suddenly popped up for me yesterday or the day before. Per request, I had turned off AdBlock for this site a long time ago and whitelisted it, but the ads remained blocked for a long time, for a reason I could never figure out. And then suddenly, they were back.

And this was the first ad I saw. Which I found remarkably coincidental since I had began riding with my facemask about 2 weeks ago. In the past, I had only used it for super cold days. But now, things are different so I use it every time. Mine is at bottom. Get a lot of looks, especially from all the little kids now on MY bike paths. But I am seeing more out there as of last couple days, so I think they are catching on. But, just for the record, I was first.

Did this ad thing happens to anyone else, or was it just me?

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I bought 18 bottles of wine when the pandemic started, at Specs Sangre! But I grabbed two mixed red sweet wines. Nasty! My fault, we like Cabs, Merlots, and Malbecs. I like Shiner beer but I’m trying to excersize more and stay in shape during the pandemic so wine is our go to.
Standing Goat Cabernet from Paso Robles will be your friend!
 
I am not sure if I am the only one who experience this, but ads suddenly popped up for me yesterday or the day before. Per request, I had turned off AdBlock for this site a long time ago and whitelisted it, but the ads remained blocked for a long time, for a reason I could never figure out. And then suddenly, they were back.

And this was the first ad I saw. Which I found remarkably coincidental since I had began riding with my facemask about 2 weeks ago. In the past, I had only used it for super cold days. But now, things are different so I use it every time. Mine is at bottom. Get a lot of looks, especially from all the little kids now on MY bike paths. But I am seeing more out there as of last couple days, so I think they are catching on. But, just for the record, I was first.

Did this ad thing happens to anyone else, or was it just me?

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I sponsor, so I don't get ads. You should too.
 
I agree that fear-mongering is bad, but I also believe that calling a virus that has killed 3.5% of confirmed, contracted Americans an "inconvenience" is misguided at best.

Believing things like this is part of the problem. The death rate is an order of magnitude below what you stated. At one point in time the death rate of deaths/confirmed cases was around 3%. That number has come down. Even more importantly more accurate estimates have been made by calculationg deaths/(confirmed cases + estimate cases that haven't been tested).

The generally accepted rate among epidemiologists is ~0.3% of those who become infected. That is above the death rate of seasonal flu but not grossly so.

Also, just because a person is exposed to the virus does not mean that infection occurs. There is another % on top of that. So even if you come into contact with the virus you chance of death is very, very low.
 
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot was forced to break her own quarantine advice to ....

Before looking, can you guess what life-threatening drama caused her to break quarantine?
She wanted a haircut
Her excuse was that she "takes her personal hygiene very seriously."

Another example of how Democrats believe they’re above you and entitled to things you are not. It is a two-tiered system. There are rules for you, and then there are rules for them. Stop voting for them
Coronavirus & Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot Violates Her Own Quarantine Advice to Get a Haircut | National Review
People who voted for her and people who vote for any Democrat, for that matter, deserve any bad things in life that result from the bad policies they enact and hypocritical behavior.
 
Another example of how Democrats believe they’re above you and entitled to things you are not. It is a two-tiered system. There are rules for you, and then there are rules for them.
I've noticed this trait in a lot of powerful people in government and other organizations. But in my experience this is not a political party linked trait.
 
People who voted for her and people who vote for any Democrat, for that matter, deserve any bad things in life that result from the bad policies they enact and hypocritical behavior.

Yeah fine but those policies sideswipe the rest of us as well.
 
“We have contained this,” Trump’s economic adviser Larry Kudlow told CNBC on February 24. “I won’t say airtight, but pretty close to airtight. We have done a good job in the United States.” Kudlow conceded that there might be “some stumbles” in financial markets, but insisted there would be no “economic tragedy.”
 
That's the spin he will put on it. More likely that the original models were pure garbage to begin with.

But look at the numbers. We're at 10,000 dead right (an awful number to be sure). Even with his very large downward adjustment he's saying we still have 5x deaths to go even though the 10K largely contracted the disease before we all snapped to attention on it.
 
...In frustration, I asked him where was his second favorite place he had lived, and Hillsborough and the Cesspool on the Brazos were not acceptable answers. He told me that when he was at Columbia, he and Betty lived in a small town in New Jersey. (I've heard a lot of stories come out of his mouth, but this was the most astounding) He said they were out in the country and it seemed like a million miles from NYC, yet it took him less than 30 minutes to get to Columbia....l

The area around Princeton is terrific.

But, speaking of New Jersey - ugh
 

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