Coronavirus

Defund universities. They are at the source of today’s social and economic problems. If a degree does not lead to a license, kill it. You are just depleting parent’s savings or creating debt on students. Time to kill the snake.
 
Dionysus said:
I think we’ll see big changes in the coming years. Will the campus experience still be worth the financial and time commitment? Will major universities adapt somehow?

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Man, that’s some expensive Internet learnin’. Is a Harvard internet degree better than a Southern New Hampshire U. or Phoenix U. Internet degree?
 
Death Toll Update - deaths due to Coronavirus continue to fall.
States reported just 242 US deaths today. Mondays are typically low given weekend reporting lags. Plus most of us just had a holiday. That said, this is the lowest Monday total since March 23 (last Mon was 330)
In addition, the weekly average hit a 10-week low

Anyone seeing this reported in the media? I watched !~10 seconds of CNN and they were at Fearporn Level Mach 11


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Garmel said:
Tied for record deaths yesterday and broke a record today for amount of deaths in Texas.
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If you die with covid, you are a covid death regardless if it had an impact. Just like more testing leads to more cases, more COVID leads to more COVID deaths.
 
mchammer said:
If you die with covid, you are a covid death regardless if it had an impact. Just like more testing leads to more cases, more COVID leads to more COVID deaths.
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True, the numbers might be inflated. However, it's not something we can just brush away either. It's something we need to keep an eye on.
 
Garmel, the numbers are being rigged up to 10 different ways. The big increase was in cases the last 3 weeks. Now that is translating into hospitalizations. Deaths will follow. But the base in all of this is inflated case counts. Some people count multiple times. We continue to test more and more people, including those already sick and going into the hospital. We continue to test everyone admitted into a hospital, even multiple times.

In the Border states we are also getting many sick from Mexico who is going their own pandemic stage of the virus. In addition to that, right now is a season where many temporary immigrants come into the US for a few months. To save money they live together many to a room, apartment, or condo. So if one has it many more get it.

The case increases are limited to 13 states. Even within those states the increases are in 50 total counties. There isn't something unique about the virus in those counties. There is something unique about the living conditions of those counties and the testing protocol/policy in those states. Not every city/state is doing and reporting the same things.
 
Monahorns said:
In the Border states we are also getting many sick from Mexico who is going their own pandemic stage of the virus. In addition to that, right now is a season where many temporary immigrants come into the US for a few months. To save money they live together many to a room, apartment, or condo. So if one has it many more get it.
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This isn't going to go away, even if everybody in the U.S. washes their hands regularly and wears masks, as long as we don't have control of our borders. Last I heard the cartels were doling out masks, but not the Mexican government.
 
We don't need to take care of Mexico. That isn't nice but we are having enough problems of our own right now. It also is being used by people like Mayor Adler for calling for business shut downs again. The virus is most likely not being spread by businesses being open. The bars and restaurants were already shut down. He already shut down the parks. He loves the iron scepter of power and doesn't need much excuse to use it.
 
Garmel said:
Tied for record deaths yesterday and broke a record today for amount of deaths in Texas.
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Looking at the overall trend, we have a slight uptick in deaths: 60 deaths yesterday - 18 deaths 2 days prior - 29 deaths 3 days prior. 60 is a record, besting the 58 deaths on 5/14. I don't see any evidence that we will sustain the high death rate. The next week or so will tell the tale.
 
Garmel said:
Tied for record deaths yesterday and broke a record today for amount of deaths in Texas.
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But meanwhile, the rate of death has actually decreased to 1.28% of the total cases...was 2.74% in mid-May at the time death count was roughly half of yesterday's closing tally.
 
Looking at the overall trend, we have a slight uptick in deaths: 60 deaths yesterday - 18 deaths 2 days prior - 29 deaths 3 days prior. 60 is a record, besting the 58 deaths on 5/14. I don't see any evidence that we will sustain the high death rate. The next week or so will tell the tale.
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Everything you say is true and meaningless at the same time (not trying to be rude). Died with? Died of? Died when exactly? Were they bused in from another town? Another country? Did the person have a confirmed case vs a probable one? How does the % confirmed cases who die today compare to a month ago or a two months ago?

To really understand where we are historically, and able to pronounce records and such we have to answer all those questions. I can't find anyone even trying.
 
So Sweden went with the herd immunity idea from the start
They took alot of heat for that
They not just allowed but even wanted their people to get infected
Today they have a lower deaths per population than New York, New Jersey and Connecticut

How do we explain this?

Joe Fan said:
Sweden's story has some overlap with the US. Cases up, deaths down
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