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I was drinking his kool aid just like Herman's but the way he's handled this is pathetic. He and Herman have buried this football program. With our 2nd best recruit getting arrested we have 1 player in this class and the rest are projects that chose Texas over Sun Belt schools and worse. Hell we couldn't even get an OL from Holy Cross. 2022 class is going to be an even bigger joke. Congrats to the liberal educators and administration at UT, you've won, we are no longer a football school.... Like I've said on other posts, this will save me about 10K a year at least...
 
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I was drinking his kool aid just like Herman's but the way he's handled this is pathetic. He and Herman have buried this football program. With our 2nd best recruit getting arrested we have 1 player in this class and the rest are projects that chose Texas over Sun Belt schools and worst. Hell we couldn't even get an OL from Holy Cross. 2022 class is going to be an even bigger joke. Congrats to the liberal educators and administration at UT, you've won, we are no longer a football school.... Like I've said on other posts, this will save me about 10K a year at least...
Be careful. I just got out of jail for using the L word in one of my posts. You are spot on though.
 
No, if anything CDC is following his philosophy of only firing a coach when he has a replacement lined up that is proven.

Firing Tom Herman in a vacuum makes no sense without a replacement already signed up. We learned that lesson in 2013 when Mack was let go without a replacement already signed up and we don't need a repeat of the s*** show that followed as we swung and missed at several replacements. It was going to cost 25M in buyouts and really only Urban was worth that so its hard to fault CDC for this move. He tried to get Urban which is to his credit and he didn't fire TH in vacuum which is also to his credit.
 
No, if anything CDC is following his philosophy of only firing a coach when he has a replacement lined up that is proven.

Firing Tom Herman in a vacuum makes no sense without a replacement already signed up. We learned that lesson in 2013 when Mack was let go without a replacement already signed up and we don't need a repeat of the s*** show that followed as we swung and missed at several replacements. It was going to cost 25M in buyouts and really only Urban was worth that so its hard to fault CDC for this move. He tried to get Urban which is to his credit and he didn't fire TH in vacuum which is also to his credit.

At least 2 Years of horrible recruiting classes is on him as well... The talent level on this team after the 2022 season will probably be the worst it has been since late 1980's... It will be hard to get out of that mess for years if you ever do...
 
Disagree completely. An AD has to think business and they have to think long-term. And shelling out $25-$35 million for a new, unproven coach is just a poor business move.

Looking at the film from KSU, it's clear we have A LOT of young guys (on both sides of the ball) that want to play football. And now they have the opportunity to do so. I think the 21 team is going to surprise a lot of people.
 
I think the 21 team is going to surprise a lot of people.

Wow, the first hype for 2021!
Not meaning anything ugly here Major, I just smiled and had that thought when I read your post. I’m one of those guys who always enjoys the start of the season cause ‘everyone’s undefeated’ when season starts and it is going to be great. I love it.
 
Disagree completely. An AD has to think business and they have to think long-term. And shelling out $25-$35 million for a new, unproven coach is just a poor business move.

Looking at the film from KSU, it's clear we have A LOT of young guys (on both sides of the ball) that want to play football. And now they have the opportunity to do so. I think the 21 team is going to surprise a lot of people.

Our 2021 class may be average but if Tom somehow wins in 21 then maybe the 22 class will be top 10?
 
Disagree completely. An AD has to think business and they have to think long-term. And shelling out $25-$35 million for a new, unproven coach is just a poor business move.

Looking at the film from KSU, it's clear we have A LOT of young guys (on both sides of the ball) that want to play football. And now they have the opportunity to do so. I think the 21 team is going to surprise a lot of people.

We've turned into the "Wait till next year Horns"...
 
Ok Handler. I will accept your assessment. So you assume the AD role as of today. You made a run at UM and so far he has said no. Your money boys are not willing to cough up the $25 million to clean house without a big name in hand.. Do you hire a “comer” and tell him he is stuck with the assistants from Tom because you cannot buy out those coaches? Nobody takes that bait. Do you fire Tom and find out the bad press is killing your attraction to other coaches and you settle for another Strong at the midnight hour? That hangover lasted a bunch of years.

What is your plan considering the current state? Who do you want to hire? Give some names. How will you deal with the $25 million? Do you take a chance on an up and comer? Remember this. One off year in recruiting might mean that for a year you get the Iowa State and TCU players. Not a death sentence to any program. Sometimes a good attitude with 3 stars is the best player.

However, bad hires in business and athletics do have long lasting damage and setbacks in performance during the downward spiral and then the slow climb back up. These bad hires followed by bad hires can be the death of a program. Count them. They are out there in the world of college football. Texas is faced with a very critical decision and it is imperative that the best possible one be made. It may take some time, and if it is a year off, so be it. But it must be a good hire!

i understand your passion and frustration. Trust me, nobody thinks Texas should never take a backseat to any other program more than me. But messy hires and fires will kill you.
 
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I was drinking his kool aid just like Herman's but the way he's handled this is pathetic. He and Herman have buried this football program. With our 2nd best recruit getting arrested we have 1 player in this class and the rest are projects that chose Texas over Sun Belt schools and worse. Hell we couldn't even get an OL from Holy Cross. 2022 class is going to be an even bigger joke. Congrats to the liberal educators and administration at UT, you've won, we are no longer a football school.... Like I've said on other posts, this will save me about 10K a year at least...
Why do you all love bringing politics into everything. I hate Herman being our coach again just as much as anyone else but my goodness, everything does not need to involve politics!! Yes our recruiting has gone down & Herman needs to be gone but your doing a bit much. Texas has never been a football school which is very frustrating because we have the talent like Bama, OSU, clemson etc.... but the fact we can't even get a big 12 championship tells me this all falls on coaching & inability to develop.
 
If what CDC means Herman will be our coach next season I wonder how many big money donors stop donating to Texas & how much money this will cost Texas as a whole. I know they are more angry than we are simply because there money is being wasted on an awful coach who should have been fired after the 2nd week.
 
Our 2nd best recruit who is ranked round #25 in the state of Texas - CB Ishmael Ibraheem... Which means we only have 2 of the top 37 players in the state of Texas....
Yikes, just read for carjacking and evading the police. Enjoy junior college...
 
Why do you all love bringing politics into everything. I hate Herman being our coach again just as much as anyone else but my goodness, everything does not need to involve politics!! Yes our recruiting has gone down & Herman needs to be gone but your doing a bit much. Texas has never been a football school which is very frustrating because we have the talent like Bama, OSU, clemson etc.... but the fact we can't even get a big 12 championship tells me this all falls on coaching & inability to develop.
Texas has never been a football school? Dion needs to Give you an AgTag.
 
Texas has never been a football school? Dion needs to Give you an AgTag.
When I think of a football school I mean national championships. Yes we have been good but I'm speaking of teams like Alabama, Clemson, Ohio state etc... who have won championships. It's not a knock on Texas at all but the fact we have had the talent and have not won anything shows that we don't have the coaching to make Texas a "football school"
 
When I think of a football school I mean national championships. Yes we have been good but I'm speaking of teams like Alabama, Clemson, Ohio state etc... who have won championships. It's not a knock on Texas at all but the fact we have had the talent and have not won anything shows that we don't have the coaching to make Texas a "football school"

Texas hasn't won championships? Who knew?
 
When I think of a football school I mean national championships. Yes we have been good but I'm speaking of teams like Alabama, Clemson, Ohio state etc... who have won championships. It's not a knock on Texas at all but the fact we have had the talent and have not won anything shows that we don't have the coaching to make Texas a "football school"

(We have 4 national championships)
 
Ok Handler. I will accept your assessment. So you assume the AD role as of today. You made a run at UM and so far he has said no. Your money boys are not willing to cough up the $25 million to clean house without a big name in hand.. Do you hire a “comer” and tell him he is stuck with the assistants from Tom because you cannot buy out those coaches? Nobody takes that bait. Do you fire Tom and find out the bad press is killing your attraction to other coaches and you settle for another Strong at the midnight hour? That hangover lasted a bunch of years.

What is your plan considering the current state? Who do you want to hire? Give some names. How will you deal with the $25 million? Do you take a chance on an up and comer? Remember this. One off year in recruiting might mean that for a year you get the Iowa State and TCU players. Not a death sentence to any program. Sometimes a good attitude with 3 stars is the best player.

However, bad hires in business and athletics do have long lasting damage and setbacks in performance during the downward spiral and then the slow climb back up. These bad hires followed by bad hires can be the death of a program. Count them. They are out there in the world of college football. Texas is faced with a very critical decision and it is imperative that the best possible one be made. It may take some time, and if it is year off, so be it. But it must a good hire!

i understand your passion and frustration. Trust me, nobody thinks Texas should never take a backseat to any other program more than me. But messy hires and fires will kill you.
It’s definitely a tough call. That’s why we hired CDC, arguably the best AD in the business, or so many thought. (And he may still be.)

As others have pointed out, Herman’s buyout is likely less — perhaps much less — than the loss in revenue we are likely to see by keeping him.

My suggestion and that of others: Elevate Yurcich or Ash and offer them an incentive laced, short term contract that is Texas favorable. If they perform, everyone wins.

Tom needs to go, for the long term viability of the program...
 

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