Chaz Patterson Leaving Texas...

Moooooo said:
Just leave. You are adding nothing here, except making yourself look like a bitter fool. Dumping on Coach A and Danni Williams is all you've managed to do. No class whatsoever.
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Neither bitter nor a fool. Actually knowledgeable. I’ll post again in March when you guys exit at sweet sixteen latest.
 
LutherIsMyDog said:
You must be getting Texas confused with Baylor. Each year, Aston has scheduled very tough, non-conference opponents. Dating back to the 2014 season, each year Texas' schedule is front loaded with Tennessee, Mississippi State, Stanford, South Carolina, UConn, Florida State. There was discussion on Hornfans during the 2016-17 season that our non conference schedule was so tough (UConn, Miss State, S. Carolina, Standford, Tennessee) that those games resulted in the team being overly fatigued by the end of conference.

Your reference to our non-conference schedule shows either your bias against Aston/Texas or that you are not as familiar with the Texas program as you pretend to be.

Like @Moooooo, you are taking personal barbs at Danni after she's played one game at Texas. BTW, Danni was a completed bad@ss in the preseason 3 point contest at Gregory Gym.
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I agree over the years Texas has had various hard games in preseason. Look at this preseason. Name one hard game besides sec challenge. Just name one
 
I keep reading that Chaz doesn't fit Karen's system. If that's the case, then why in the hell did she recruit her in the first place? Is our coach so incompetent she doesn't know what type of player she's recruiting or did she just want to keep her away from baylor, aggie? That's a sickening thing to do, to recruit a player just to let them sit on the bench.
 
HScoachhtx said:
Neither bitter nor a fool. Actually knowledgeable. I’ll post again in March when you guys exit at sweet sixteen latest.
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You keep proving my point, although you are too dense to notice.

You aren't here to give props to Chasity and provide constructive points; you are here to dump on Coach A and the Texas program. You are very transparent, just like most "new" posters who only register on this site and decide to post during adversity.

Again, you are making yourself look better and better on here with every childish and degrading post you make.
 
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Run Pincher said:
I keep reading that Chaz doesn't fit Karen's system. If that's the case, then why in the hell did she recruit her in the first place? Is our coach so incompetent she doesn't know what type of player she's recruiting or did she just want to keep her away from baylor, aggie? That's a sickening thing to do, to recruit a player just to let them sit on the bench.
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Maybe you are the incompetent one. Recruits don't always pan out at the university they sign with initially. Plenty of signed recruits left programs run by Coach Auriemma and Coach Summitt for many reasons, some of which were not being a good fit. It happens in all sports at just about every school whether a program is elite or not.
 
HScoachhtx said:
I agree over the years Texas has had various hard games in preseason. Look at this preseason. Name one hard game besides sec challenge. Just name one
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I responded to your post that said "each season she schedules weak teams". This is the first season that we haven't a devil's gauntlet to run through prior to the regular season. I'm actually okay with not front loading this season with top 10 opponents as this will allow a team without Ariel and Brooke (and Joyner Holmes) to get its footing. As it stands, this young team will be adequately challenged by its non-conference schedule.

BTW, Tennessee is on our non-conference schedule this year so that qualifies as "one hard game".
 
Moooooo said:
Maybe you are the incompetent one. Recruits don't always pan out at the university they sign with initially. Plenty of signed recruits left programs run by Coach Auriemma and Coach Summitt for many reasons, some of which were not being a good fit. It happens in all sports at just about every school whether a program is elite or not.
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I'm not the one doing the recruiting and you making such a statement is an insult to me and against board rules. Sure players left Auriemma and Summit''s teams for lack of effort, homesick, etc., but they never recruited anyone that didn't fit their system.
 
LutherIsMyDog said:
I responded to your post that said "each season she schedules weak teams". This is the first season that we haven't a devil's gauntlet to run through prior to the regular season. I'm actually okay with not front loading this season with top 10 opponents as this will allow a team without Ariel and Brooke (and Joyner Holmes) to get its footing. As it stands, this young team will be adequately challenged by its non-conference schedule.

BTW, Tennessee is on our non-conference schedule this year so that qualifies as "one hard game".
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I have stated twice now that the sec challenge (miss state/tenn) is tough. I said that earlier. They are the only hard two games. Miss state is obviously stronger than tenn, but both are legit. Look at others? UTRGV?
 
HScoachhtx said:
I have stated twice now that the sec challenge (miss state/tenn) is tough. I said that earlier. They are the only hard two games. Miss state is obviously stronger than tenn, but both are legit. Look at others? UTRGV?
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Our game with Miss State is the game associated with the Big 12/SEC Challenge. The Tennessee game was scheduled by Aston.

As my final post on this thread (hopefully), I’m disappointed Chaz is no longer at Texas. I wish her the best and hope she achieves her full potential at another program.
 
Run Pincher said:
I'm not the one doing the recruiting and you making such a statement is an insult to me and against board rules. Sure players left Auriemma and Summit''s teams for lack of effort, homesick, etc., but they never recruited anyone that didn't fit their system.
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No coach is going to recruit/sign a player knowing that player won’t fit their system just to keep her from another team - maybe Mulkey, her pettiness seems to have no bounds.

The reality is that no one, not even the coaches or Chaz, are going to be able diagnose precisely why the fit didn’t work. We nor they can perceive exactly what the other person is thinking or experiencing. I was very excited about Chaz and her potential but it did not work out. The best we can all do is hope that she finds the right situation and thrives.
 
Run Pincher said:
I'm not the one doing the recruiting and you making such a statement is an insult to me and against board rules. Sure players left Auriemma and Summit''s teams for lack of effort, homesick, etc., but they never recruited anyone that didn't fit their system.
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Let me get this straight. It is okay for you to "insult" Coach Aston by describing her recruiting as "incompetent", but when I use the same word (which you introduced into this thread) to describe your logic, I am the one doing the insulting and breaking board rules? Way to play the victim card. Don't be such a hypocrite.

And, accusing her of hoarding players so they don't end up at Baylor or A&M? Seriously? Where did you pull that one out of? Tough to believe you are a fan of the program with comments like those . . .
 
To HScoachtx I don’t know you but can tell you are very close to Patterson so I understand your frustration as well as hurt you are going through fact is that over the last four years the transfer rate especially in women’s basketball has skyrocketed for every team. Ezpinoza who can shoot left Uconn for whatever her reasons are and is now at Miss. St so does that make Geno a bad guy or bad coach? Of course not. KA not a good coach? I completely disagree with you, if you trace back through history of great coaches I bet they had great players to help them win. KA is in the process of bringing in championship caliber players with that pedigree but what’s hard in the women’s game is most run to the same schools only in recent history are we seeing a change in that trend. There is a process in building a winning culture so I would say to Texas fans is be patient I think Texas has final 4 written all over them. I don’t agree with talking negative about a young player on a blog especially when you get the advantage of hiding your identity not fair or mature . I’m probably just rambling right now but I honestly find you offensive so I apologize to anyone on this thread if I offended you
 
Run Pincher said:
Sure players left Auriemma and Summit''s teams for lack of effort, homesick, etc., but they never recruited anyone that didn't fit their system.
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False. You can't use a word like "never" as there are no absolutes in recruiting. You don't know all the reasons why those head coaches offered the players they recruited; everyone had made recruiting mistakes.

And, more importantly, no one with credibility has gone on record to say that the reason Chasity left was because she didn't feel she fit into the system.
 
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There are many instances of players leaving programs and almost as many situations/factors that people speculate caused it. For a recent example, I haven't heard a plausible reason why the Baylor starting point guard left.....now that is truly baffling to those on the outside. "Most" on this forum are Horns fans. We want to see the players succeed. I'll bet ALL (player/coaches/family/fans/etc.) wish the Patterson situation turned out differently. I am moving on and away from all the toxic posts......it depresses me. I'll be in Denton tomorrow night rooting for all the players...…….. and the team will play with those that choose to participate. I will provide my "fair and biased" game summary later that night when I get back. Hook Em
 
So, here's a different perspective. For those who are familiar with Jamie Carey, she was a very driven Longhorn PG who spoke her mind to her new teammates from the get-go, despite being a transfer from Stanford (and the state of Colorado). She always struck me as a very vocal and no-nonsense player; so, I am assume she is the same way as an assistant coach at Texas.

I find it very hard to believe that Coach Carey, who I assume was Chasity's position coach, isn't involved with the decisions as to when guards come into a game off the bench, and how many minutes they see action. She probably spends more time with the guards than anyone else on the coaching staff. So, perhaps she had provided Coach A with her opinions as to guard management off the bench on Thursday night.
 
HScoachhtx said:
I have stated twice now that the sec challenge (miss state/tenn) is tough. I said that earlier. They are the only hard two games. Miss state is obviously stronger than tenn, but both are legit. Look at others? UTRGV?
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You seem to be having some difficulty reading the schedule. We also have a tourney, the Gulf Coast Showcase. If teams play to their rankings, we should see Missouri (#16) and Duke (#21). 4 non-conference games against top 25 teams is generally the most that good teams from real conferences schedule. From a quick look, this year ND has 4, Uconn 4, Oregon 2, Baylor 4, Louisville 1, MS St 3, Stanford 2, Oregon St 2, MD 2, USC 3. But as a knowledgeable coach, you would know that, Right?
 
There's an old internet meme that says every flame war on the internet ends up with one person calling the other either a Nazi or Hitler.

Maybe we should just have a set of preset posts and counter-posts already drafted where we fill in the player's names when one announces that they are transferring out.

Seems to me we don't need one when a player transfers in. Heh.

She didn't dump me, I broke up with her first!
 
Oakman, you wrote that Espinoza left UConn for whatever her reasons are. From some Geno quotes I read, he practically ran her out of town. I don't remember them verbatim, but he was really denigrating to her. No other coach could ever get away with that. I appreciate Karen's professionalism, even if I sometimes question a few choices she makes.
 
Being from the Northeast and having relationships with her aau team there were many rumors on what happened but not my place to comment or give my opinion my only point was kids are transferring at a very high rate from every school so why would someone feel the need to point out KA in a negative light. Btw I am In total agreement that Geno is the only coach who can make those disparaging comments and get away with it
JoeDallas said:
Oakman, you wrote that Espinoza left UConn for whatever her reasons are. From some Geno quotes I read, he practically ran her out of town. I don't remember them verbatim, but he was really denigrating to her. No other coach could ever get away with that. I appreciate Karen's professionalism, even if I sometimes question a few choices she makes.
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Oakman said:
Being from the Northeast and having relationships with her aau team there were many rumors on what happened but not my place to comment or give my opinion my only point was kids are transferring at a very high rate from every school so why would someone feel the need to point out KA in a negative light. Btw I am In total agreement that Geno is the only coach who can make those disparaging comments and get away with it
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I think there are a few others who could get away with it - Vanderveer (wouldn't), McGraw (wouldn't), Mulkey (probably) and Walz (depends on how angry he is in the moment).
 
Alright enough chatter about who, what, where, when, why, how.

Let's think about some other questions.
Who needs a PG?
Will she get immediate eligibility, NCAA waiver?
Will she leave the big 12?
Who was on her top 5 list?

Looks like she also considered UCLA and OU. I could see her being another Jordin Canada for UCLA. Speedy guard with a 3 pointer. She reminds me of Danielle Robinson and Aaryn Ellenberg at OU.

But OMG, what if she stays in the Big 12 and heads north on 35 to you guest it, Baylor. They need a pg and an outside threat.

What if Vic wants her at MsSt? Another itty bitty ice in her vains bracket buster.

What it Tina takes her. Rebuilds VA with her. Hmmm.

This is just FUN speculation. I have know idea.

O one more. Jeff Walz at Louisville. I can see him working with her. He likes 3 point PG. Think of Schimmel.

O and then coach Joni at GA. She's building quite the program at GA. I'm sure she could use her.
 
I hope Chaz finds a place where her exceptional skill set can be fully evaluated and utilized... it would be fun to see her get into one of the better programs...and one that would afford her the opportunity to face Karen Aston regularly.
 
Has anybody considered that there might be non-basketball reasons for her departure? Academics? Homesick? All the comments seem to blame Aston for mishandling. May be true, may not.
 
And isn’t it entirely possible that this was a mutually agreed situation? You’re not happy. We’re not happy. Something may eventually come out to appease our curiosity, but it’s not likely. Programs, as everyone here knows, don’t typically speak of these things, much to the chagrin of fans.

As sad as it is that this didn’t pan out for both athlete and program, a scholarship door has opened. The decision, the damage, or whatever one wants to call it has been done/made. Who do we have a shot at signing?
 
Players ride the bench for a reason. Who knows what it was with Chas but I wish her well.

Destiny rode the bench last year and then completely transformed herself this summer and no more bench.

Then there is Charlie making an impact day one. You never know...
 
Moooooo said:
Chazz has been at Texas for over a year. How come you never posted on here before today? You are simply here to stir the pot. You have no facts, only innuendos.

So, don't act surprised when veteran posters on here don't believe what you have to say.

You come here to dump on our head coach, and a new player like Danni Williams who has actually proved it on the court and in the classroom. Shame on you!
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What’s poop is your team. And coach. Good win vs unt.
 
l’ll ask the question again. WTH was Aston thinking not playing a player of Chaz’s caliber. Especially when they don’t have anyone that can score on the perimeter outside of Lashann.
 
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