CDC Wanted Sonny Dykes as Head Coach

[mchammer]

I don't get why he gets bonus credit for improving on his own decline. 7-6 to 8-5 would be better, but less progress. 3-9 to 8-5 would be worse, but more progress.

His decline? Sam graduated before his first season. What do you think the record would be without Sam in 2020? Likely 4-6 at best. Sam held the 2020 team together.

 

[2003TexasGrad]

Dumb article. Clickbait much.

 

[BevoJoe]

I’ll give Sark 5 seasons. His first year he didn’t have the opportunity to recruit a class, but only recruited 1 guy - Worthy. The rest were Tom’s guys. This year’s frosh was his first class.

When we get to year 4 or 5 he will have guys who have learned his system from day one. If he is still winning only 8 or 9 games, then give him the boot to his backside and go get a guy with a proven track record and an NC win or two. We don’t need to “settle” for a guy that might be capable, we need to go “take” one who has and can produce.

 

[ViperHorn]

It is hard for most of us HornFans' AD's to accept continual churn without results. Three years is really two, as the first can't be held against the HC. Dykes fell into a team of seniors and the portal and took advantage of that.

Sark made progress with recruiting and is smart enough to know wins keep the recruiting train going. Give him his five years and then make an assessment.

 

[moondog_LFZ]

After DKRs last championship wasn't it about four coaches and 30 years before we won another?

 

[rreading]

I’ll give Sark 5 seasons. His first year he didn’t have the opportunity to recruit a class, but only recruited 1 guy - Worthy. The rest were Tom’s guys. This year’s frosh was his first class.

When we get to year 4 or 5 he will have guys who have learned his system from day one. If he is still winning only 8 or 9 games, then give him the boot to his backside and go get a guy with a proven track record and an NC win or two. We don’t need to “settle” for a guy that might be capable, we need to go “take” one who has and can produce.

While I agree with your initial commentary, your concluding statement sounds a lot like Aggie.

 

[Run Pincher]

Can anyone name a coach who started off slow, mired in mediocrity for 3-4 years and then finally broke though with 10+ win seasons and/or NC's for a long time?

It seems like every very successful coach I can remember turned programs around immediately. Just like DKR and Mack Brown did at Texas. Saban, Holtz, Bowden, Paterno, Snyder, Bryant. Maybe a little longer for Mack and UNC and Snyder at KSU, but it was a still dramatic from where they were.

That's why I have my doubts about Sark. If Texas had won 10 games this year considering the talent I would have hope. But I'm just not seeing the type of turnaround one would expect for a coach to take us to consistent 10 win seasons.

 

[BevoJoe]

While I agree with your initial commentary, your concluding statement sounds a lot like Aggie.

Nope! I didn't misspell anything.

 

[Chinstrap]

And all this started by a has-been writer for a third-rate fish wrap?

It has been a long decade fueled by incompetence in the President's office, two horrendous hires, one "I can't do that to my friend", and we expect instant gratification? Sorry but if Powers hadn't botched the Saban deal, it is doubtful Nick would have done the turnaround that Sonny pulled in Tarrant County. Will Sonny have an encore? Doubtful, but he has done it once, which is a lot more times than multiple other coaches around the country have.

Give Sonny & his staff credit for a fantastic job. Give Sark some time (my patience is gone) to produce - remembering that Mack Brown's first couple of seasons included getting 60+ dropped on us by OU.

While waiting, ignore self-seeking full-of-themselves "I know something you don't know" fish wrap employees (and posters). Maybe Kirk & I can start a club and be the first two members.

The odd couple.

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

I would be surprised if cdc offered dykes.

Too bad.

 

[longhornlegend]

Don’t know much about the inner dealings, but from the outside looking in it appears that Dykes can coach and has done amazing work at SMU and TCU. Kudos to him and his staff for getting the Frogs ready for a shot at a CFP championship. Not a lot of active HCs out there ethat can claim that - so credit him for navigating this season the way they have.

Hope they pull off another stunner and bring back the crown. Assuming they will be underdogs- again - which seems to suit them well this year.

I think Dykes hit lucky for sure. Getting riley as an oc and having Duggan who is very similar to Colt in that he is super accurate and can scramble. Those 2 things are game changers that we dont have on display today.

 

[horninchicago]

What were the reactions and general consensus around here of TCU hiring Dykes at the time?

Is this all with the benefit of hindsight?

 

[Chop]

Can anyone name a coach who started off slow, mired in mediocrity for 3-4 years and then finally broke though with 10+ win seasons and/or NC's for a long time?

Dabo Swinney

Year 1.....4-3
Year 2......9-5
Year 3.....6-7

Later on, 2 National Championships, 8 Conference Championships.
161-39 record now at Clemson

 

[Texadelphia]

I think Dykes hit lucky for sure. Getting riley as an oc and having Duggan who is very similar to Colt in that he is super accurate and can scramble. Those 2 things are game changers that we dont have on display today.

Wonder how this is sitting with Patterson. He obviously left TCU in darn good shape.

 

[Walking Boss]

I have my doubts about Sarkisian. I think he needs to be the head coach and he can't do that and also being his own oc/play caller. I think it shows in clock management and getting on the officials. He can't do that while he is trying to determine the next play call or next series. (I think Gundy had this problem as well). I think it may bog him down as a play caller. He also seems to be very stubborn with staying with his QB even though it is obvious that a relief pitcher needs to be brought it. Having said that, I think that the divided locker room and institutional train wreck he inherited is not the same situation that Dykes walked into. More importantly, if Sarkisian had Duggan as his QB1 playing like he did this year, we would have had a real chance at being where TCU is right now. That is a big assumption, but Duggan's mobility and accuracy would have kept drives alive and the defense off the field.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

I have my doubts about Sarkisian. I think he needs to be the head coach and he can't do that and also being his own oc/play caller. I think it shows in clock management and getting on the officials. He can't do that while he is trying to determine the next play call or next series. (I think Gundy had this problem as well). I think it may bog him down as a play caller. He also seems to be very stubborn with staying with his QB even though it is obvious that a relief pitcher needs to be brought it. Having said that, I think that the divided locker room and institutional train wreck he inherited is not the same situation that Dykes walked into. More importantly, if Sarkisian had Duggan as his QB1 playing like he did this year, we would have had a real chance at being where TCU is right now. That is a big assumption, but Duggan's mobility and accuracy would have kept drives alive and the defense off the field.

Well said, Boss.

 

[Run Pincher]

Dabo Swinney

Year 1.....4-3
Year 2......9-5
Year 3.....6-7

Later on, 2 National Championships, 8 Conference Championships.
161-39 record now at Clemson

Yep, didn't think about him, but definitely the exception, not the rule.

I have my doubts about Sarkisian. I think he needs to be the head coach and he can't do that and also being his own oc/play caller. I think it shows in clock management and getting on the officials. He can't do that while he is trying to determine the next play call or next series. (I think Gundy had this problem as well). I think it may bog him down as a play caller. He also seems to be very stubborn with staying with his QB even though it is obvious that a relief pitcher needs to be brought it. Having said that, I think that the divided locker room and institutional train wreck he inherited is not the same situation that Dykes walked into. More importantly, if Sarkisian had Duggan as his QB1 playing like he did this year, we would have had a real chance at being where TCU is right now. That is a big assumption, but Duggan's mobility and accuracy would have kept drives alive and the defense off the field.

Sark would've played Ewers over Duggan. But yes, with Duggan at QB this team probably would've been in the playoffs.

 

[Walking Boss]

Yep, didn't think about him, but definitely the exception, not the rule.


Sark would've played Ewers over Duggan. But yes, with Duggan at QB this team probably would've been in the playoffs.

Duggan was QB2 to start the year, came in and took off after the starter was injured. Dykes clearly had some good fortune there (not unlike Belicheck and Brady to a much lesser degree). If Card hadn't also gotten injured against Bama who knows, maybe we win that game and Tech, confidence abounds and the players have momentum, start playing faster, stronger, and making plays.

 

[Texadelphia]

I have my doubts about Sarkisian. I think he needs to be the head coach and he can't do that and also being his own oc/play caller. I think it shows in clock management and getting on the officials. He can't do that while he is trying to determine the next play call or next series. (I think Gundy had this problem as well). I think it may bog him down as a play caller. He also seems to be very stubborn with staying with his QB even though it is obvious that a relief pitcher needs to be brought it. Having said that, I think that the divided locker room and institutional train wreck he inherited is not the same situation that Dykes walked into. More importantly, if Sarkisian had Duggan as his QB1 playing like he did this year, we would have had a real chance at being where TCU is right now. That is a big assumption, but Duggan's mobility and accuracy would have kept drives alive and the defense off the field.

Bingo. You nailed it, Boss. This is the biggest area for improvement and most glaring gap to fix. Over the past two seasons there are at least 4-5 games (more?) that could’ve had different outcomes related to this particular topic.

It’s an ego thing, though. Can Sark make the switch? I sure hope so. Mack had to do something related to his ego when he decided to let Vince be Vince and not force him into something he wasn’t, and that worked out pretty well.

 

[BLucky]

I have my doubts about Sarkisian. I think he needs to be the head coach and he can't do that and also being his own oc/play caller. I think it shows in clock management and getting on the officials. He can't do that while he is trying to determine the next play call or next series. (I think Gundy had this problem as well). I think it may bog him down as a play caller. He also seems to be very stubborn with staying with his QB even though it is obvious that a relief pitcher needs to be brought it. Having said that, I think that the divided locker room and institutional train wreck he inherited is not the same situation that Dykes walked into. More importantly, if Sarkisian had Duggan as his QB1 playing like he did this year, we would have had a real chance at being where TCU is right now. That is a big assumption, but Duggan's mobility and accuracy would have kept drives alive and the defense off the field.

Isn't this issue about OC one of the things everyone is saying about jimbo?