Carroll - Strength of the Pac-10

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p_town_horn

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I was watching espn this morning and they showed the post-game Pete Carroll interview. His comment was something like, "this game just shows how incredibly difficult the Pac-10 is." Is he delusional??? You just lost to a team that lost to Stanford. This shows how overhyped USC is and what happens when a bunch of primadonnas take a week off.

Don't get me wrong Texas has dropped games to K-state and A&M in the past few years that we inexcusable, but don't try to spin it into something else.
 
PSU didn't seem to have trouble with Ore St.

Pac-10 has 0 undefeated teams, the Big XII has 7.

What it showed us was we were wrong about every team in the Pac-10 sucking except for USC which was awesome. It turns out every team sucks, and USC is pretty good.
 
I am certain that Stanford will find themselves ranked next week when ESPN and company find out how awesome the Pac-10 really is and realize that OSU must be Eastern Carolina reborn.
 
It's hard for SEC, Big 10 and Big XIi teams to imagine how intimidating it is to play in front of 42,000 people in Corvallis, Oregon. And oh the fans! College football is a religion out there. Tiny crowds of passionless fans in places like Knoxville, Columbus, and Lincoln can't come close to that intimidating Pac-10 road atmosphere.
 
When mediocre to crappy teams in the SEC beat the ones ranked at the top, this is the argument that gets thrown around to show how vastly superior the competition is to all other conferences. Why shouldn't that apply here? Probably because its a stupid argument regardless of the conference.
 
If I just got whupped by one of the worst teams in a conference, I would have to conclude the same thing. The Pac-10 may very well prove to be a difficult conference....






























...for USC.
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The outcome of this game in sports perception is as bizzare as the outcome of USC getting mudholed by a 25-pt unranked underdog.All day today, even on Jim Rome, the talk is that this does not take USC out of the title picture.

ESPN radio says it just shows that coaching and talent is so even you can't expect to win every game.

Lou from Game Day said if anyone else had lost -- such as Georgia or Missouri -- they'd be out of the title hunt, but that perception will keep USC in the hunt even after this loss.

It's as if the model is like this:

-- USC was so great, if they'd won, the dialog just keeps on a'keepin' on.

-- But, siince USC lost, it now reshapes the whole idea of what it means to lose, to lose early or late, and that all the rest of the teams are likely to fall between now and the end so that USC can crawl back up.

ridiculously uneven terms
USC is being talked about in ridiculously uneven terms to the point of absurdity. It's such that that program can't even be routed in one of the most embarrassing falls from grace in over 25 years, and shut everybody up. No, it's actually elevated the dialog. It's created a perception of college football that will keep the word "USC" in every conversation for the rest of the season. Hell.. just look at me!!

no respect for any other coach or program
It's as if the whole Top 25 is being disrespected; all coaches, all programs, all players. USC is annointed with some kind of "standard." Yes, they are pretty good, they are the modern Notre Dame loaded with McDonald's All-Americans and pretty boys, and so yeah they tend to hold their own in general, but last night proved they are a prima donna unprepared team that would get the **** kicked out of them annually if they had to suffer through the SEC or Big 12.

If Pete thinks the Pac 10 is brutal... man, give me a break.
 
There's a huge difference between Alabama losing to UL-Monroe or Arkansas barely scraping by vs. an entire conference going 0-4 on one weekend against the Mountain West.
 
What last night showed is that when a team starts reading and watching it's reviews, and buying into them, they'll lose to somebody they shouldn't. Scratch that thought...Oregon State has done pretty well against SC in Corvallis this decade...maybe last night wasn't such an upset after all. It does suck that the talking heads today are trying to come up with some mojo that will get USuCks into the BCS championship game, loss or no loss.
 
Y'all are making waaaaay too much out of this.

It was just another early season No 1 team getting knocked off by a vast underdog. It was great theater and fun to root for the little guy.

That's all. It would have been just as much fun had it been LSU at No1, or Ohio State or any other perennial Top 10 Team.

Had it been Notre Dame or Wofford, it would have been even more awesome. Had it been OU, well, I'd still be giggling like a schoolgirl.

Let him spin it any way he wants; he's just trying to not fall too far in the polls.

He's just doing his job.




BTHOOA

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I don't care what ESPN says, USC doesn't have a chance in hell of making it to the MNC game now. They have ZERO ranked teams on their schedule the entire rest of the way, so there is no way for them to make up any ground. Any potential one loss team from the Big 12, SEC, or even the Mountain West will have at least played multiple ranked teams between now and the end of the year.

The only chance to play for the MNC that USC has left now is if all of the other BCS conference teams in America lose at least twice, and the chances of that happening are at least one in a million.
 
We are so lucky that USC lost so that our buckeye fans can come back. There was some silence and shame for a couple of weeks. Amazing what happens when the team that thumps yours loses.
 
I don't throw my team under the bus

I'm a realist

I'm objective

and I call it how I see it.

I had SC at 10-2 before the season began. I mentioned many times here USC is poorly coached. I was cautiously optimistic after the first two games but admitted it could be a red herring, just like last year's win over Nebraska and 2006's win over Arkansas.

Nothing has changed for SC.

Why'd you vanish after SC kicked Ohio St's ***? Recruit some speed, then maybe Ohio St will be able to compete with good football teams.
 
its seems some are a little to harsh on usc. I'm happy to see them get their annual loss to huge underdog (our kst) because the sure don't seem to lose against ranked teams. Carroll is very good at having them focused for the big games. not so much for the other games. this loss opens the door for a big 12 vs sec mnc game assuming each conference has an undefeated team(big assumption). usc goes 11-1 and climbs to #3 despite weaker schedule but with more talent on the bench than anyone else. I'm fine with that...
 
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