Big XII Tiebreaker Rules

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If we tie with West Virginia and both of us only have 1 loss which would be to OU, we will win the tie break based on Rule 6. This is due to us not playing any FCS team and our SoS should be higher than theirs.
 
militaryhorn said:
If we tie with West Virginia and both of us only have 1 loss which would be to OU, we will win the tie break based on Rule 6. This is due to us not playing any FCS team and our SoS should be higher than theirs.
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The issue is if WV beats OU and goes undefeated in the conference or possibly 1 loss to another team than OU.
 
mchammer said:
The issue is if WV beats OU and goes undefeated in the conference or possibly 1 loss to another team than OU.
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If they go undefeated then we don't get in assuming OU only has one loss. If WV only has one loss and not by OU would depend on who they lose too. We don't get in based on Rule 2 since we both played OU and WV beat them and we didn't assuming their lose is not a common opponent. If it is a common opponent, I think we get in based on Rule 6 with a higher rating.
 
It's rule #4 in the three-way tie scenario that has me a little worried.

"4. Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)."

If BU and UH continue to suck, but Cincy and UCF improve, that might be enough to keep us below other teams that finish 8-1 in conference. Our best bet might just be to have Baylor and Houston run the table (with the exception of losing to us next week).

I honestly don't think it's likely that of the seven remaining undefeated or one-loss teams in the conference, that any or multiple of them finish the season that way.
1. WVU and KU go to Norman
2. ISU will drop one of its next 4 between Cincy, BU, KU, BYU
3. Tech will get mudstomped by us on T+1 thanks to Yormark
4. OK State probably only has 1 or 2 wins left in them for the rest of the season
5. KSU loses this week or next to TCU or Tech
 
ViperHorn said:
Don't trust the Big XII to follow their own rules if it means screwing Texas or ou.
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Imagine....

Yormark: "Oklahoma has finished the conference season undefeated, and Texas has finished with just one loss. With that said, we'd like to introduce our two contestants for the 2023 Big 12 Conference Championship. The designated visiting team will be 7-5 Kansas while the designated home team will be 8-4 West Virginia. This may come as a shock to you, but we firmly believe these are the best two teams in the Big 12 today, and that's the sole reason they have been selected to battle in Arlington for the coveted title of Big 12 Football Champion!"
 
WVU has ****** opponents until November, so it's difficult to say with certainty that they'll get at least 2 losses in conference. Their offense is kind of bad, so if they get in a back-and-forth match, they'll fold.

Of the remaining 1-loss teams, none of them strike as much fear into Texas as Texas strikes into them. This isn't the Chuck Strong years. However, most of those teams are capable of rising to the occasion, like Tech last year.

Another factor is whether OU has a "letdown" type of game, like when we backed into the CCG in 2001. Or when we did them the same favor the following year in 2002. Maybe Bedlam (but probably not).

I don't really want to go through the remaining 45 conference games to figure out "the path" right now, but once November hits, it'll be a little easier to contemplate.
 
TheBeeman said:
Don’t we also need OU to beat KU?
Else we could end in a three-way tie.
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We discussed this before. The tiebreaker here is ranking. Since Texas beat Bama at Bama and Texas won big over KU, there is no way KU will be ranked over Texas.
 
mchammer said:
We discussed this before. The tiebreaker here is ranking. Since Texas beat Bama at Bama and Texas won big over KU, there is no way KU will be ranked over Texas.
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If it’s a three way tie between us, KU and OU wouldn’t rule 4 come in to play?

"4. Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)."

I read this to be about how each team’s Big12 opponents did.
The Bama win wouldn’t come in to that, no?
 
TheBeeman said:
If it’s a three way tie between us, KU and OU wouldn’t rule 4 come in to play?

"4. Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)."

I read this to be about how each team’s Big12 opponents did.
The Bama win wouldn’t come in to that, no?
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Yes, I forgot about that part.
 
So with KU losing, the way I figure it is that our danger is now ending up with a 3 way tie with OU and one of either WVA or OK State.

WVA and OKstate play each other so that’s one loss for one of them.
But we need OU to beat the other.
 
Isn’t the WVU loss to UH the only victory of the new teams against the old teams in the B12?
 
TheBeeman said:
So with KU losing, the way I figure it is that our danger is now ending up with a 3 way tie with OU and one of either WVA or OK State.

WVA and OKstate play each other so that’s one loss for one of them.
But we need OU to beat the other.
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OU will lose to OSU on purpose just to screw us so they can have an easier opponent in the CCG.
 
mchammer said:
OU will lose to OSU on purpose just to screw us so they can have an easier opponent in the CCG.
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If OU loses to OSU, that screws them with a late loss for the championship series selection.

the bottom line is we have to win out.

OU is the only top team left on OSU’s schedule. Their away games are WV,
UCF and Houston. They are not losing to any of those 3 teams.
 
old65horn said:
If OU loses to OSU, that screws them with a late loss for the championship series selection.

the bottom line is we have to win out.

OU is the only top team left on OSU’s schedule. Their away games are WV,
UCF and Houston. They are not losing to any of those 3 teams.
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Fortunately Texas isn’t playing Cincy or UCF this year, which are the worse 2 teams in the conference so far. Thus, compared against OSU or WV, I think we win the toughest schedule tie-breaker in case of a 3-way tie.
 
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