Big 12 officiating

Your argument is based on supposition. The evidence indicates the refs do not consider OU's blocking techniques to be illegal. If Texas chooses not to employ similar blocking techniques (again, that are evidently not considered a penalty) then we're simply putting ourselves at a functional disadvantage.
Again, those "blocking techniques" are holding, therefore they will call holding on Texas. We brought visual clues of holding, but you say it's not holding, so I'm not sure if you are just a Sooner troll or what. My argument is that the officials are not calling holding...
 
Again, those "blocking techniques" are holding, therefore they will call holding on Texas. We brought visual clues of holding, but you say it's not holding, so I'm not sure if you are just a Sooner troll or what. My argument is that the officials are not calling holding...
Yes, thank you! OrangeShogun has definitely shown himself to be a Sooner troll. Amen to that!

<sarc for the many of you who are sarcasm challenged.>
 
Wait a minute, maybe I'm a sooner or aggie troll. After all, I can put aside the burnt orange glasses and kool-aid to look at things through a realistic lens.

Yep, I'm definitely a sooner/aggie troll, too.

It feels good to get this off my back. Thank you.
 
Wait a minute, maybe I'm a sooner or aggie troll. After all, I can put aside the burnt orange glasses and kool-aid to look at things through a realistic lens.

Yep, I'm definitely a sooner/aggie troll, too.

It feels good to get this off my back. Thank you.
Well, while we are telling the truth about trolling, I'm a big 12 ref trolling hornfans, I wanted to see who noticed our blatant incompetence and bias towards our wonderful friends north of the red river..I was hired by walleye Anderson from the big sky:fiestanana:
 
Walleye Burks was hired from the BigSky/MWC by Walt Anderson, DDS, Burks is from Cali-prune-ya, and Anderson from Sugar Land.

Please explain if there is a discrepancy in the "unofficial payment program".
 
In our view from section 110 of the Cotton Bowl, it looked like the refs missed the following:

A sooner stepped out of bounds on his own, then completed a 3rd and long pass, which resulted in a touchdown a play or two later. This was reviewed and the play stood, but on the video screen it was obvious. They freeze framed the screen with his foot out.

A sooner stepped out of bounds on his own, then completed a 3rd and long pass, which was a touchdown play. This play was NOT reviewed and was not even contested by the Longhorn staff, but was completely obvious on the big screen replay. Again, they freeze framed the screen with his foot out.

Rattler through a backwards pass that was recovered by Texas but was rulled a forward incomplete pass and immediately blown dead. This would have resulted in a Texas touchdown.

An OU fumble that was ruled Texas ball, but was overturned after the review, but on the stadium screen, you could not see the ball in any of the angles at the time his knee touched the ground. There did not appear to be anything that could overturn the call. This resulted in an OU field goal a few plays later.

Blatant offensive holding by the OU line that was not called on at least 7 occasions, many of which converted 3rd and long situations and at least one touchdown.

I know this is an over used statement, but it was the worst officiating I've ever seen. I must have had a bad angle or something.:confused2:

- Mike
 
In our view from section 110 of the Cotton Bowl, it looked like the refs missed the following:

A sooner stepped out of bounds on his own, then completed a 3rd and long pass, which resulted in a touchdown a play or two later. This was reviewed and the play stood, but on the video screen it was obvious. They freeze framed the screen with his foot out.

A sooner stepped out of bounds on his own, then completed a 3rd and long pass, which was a touchdown play. This play was NOT reviewed and was not even contested by the Longhorn staff, but was completely obvious on the big screen replay. Again, they freeze framed the screen with his foot out.

Rattler through a backwards pass that was recovered by Texas but was rulled a forward incomplete pass and immediately blown dead. This would have resulted in a Texas touchdown.

An OU fumble that was ruled Texas ball, but was overturned after the review, but on the stadium screen, you could not see the ball in any of the angles at the time his knee touched the ground. There did not appear to be anything that could overturn the call. This resulted in an OU field goal a few plays later.

Blatant offensive holding by the OU line that was not called on at least 7 occasions, many of which converted 3rd and long situations and at least one touchdown.

I know this is an over used statement, but it was the worst officiating I've ever seen. I must have had a bad angle or something.:confused2:

- Mike
Excellent write up, but there are some folks on this board that think we should implement some of the tactics that the sooners are using as if Texas would get away with it. SMH. Otherwise we are "belly aching" or being "aggyish" to complain about officiating and that it's supposition accusations against the big 12 officials. Or my favorite, we should just start winning every game like we did in 2004, to get every call in our favor...:bevo:
 
In our view from section 110 of the Cotton Bowl, it looked like the refs missed the following:

A sooner stepped out of bounds on his own, then completed a 3rd and long pass, which resulted in a touchdown a play or two later. This was reviewed and the play stood, but on the video screen it was obvious. They freeze framed the screen with his foot out.

A sooner stepped out of bounds on his own, then completed a 3rd and long pass, which was a touchdown play. This play was NOT reviewed and was not even contested by the Longhorn staff, but was completely obvious on the big screen replay. Again, they freeze framed the screen with his foot out.

Rattler through a backwards pass that was recovered by Texas but was rulled a forward incomplete pass and immediately blown dead. This would have resulted in a Texas touchdown.

An OU fumble that was ruled Texas ball, but was overturned after the review, but on the stadium screen, you could not see the ball in any of the angles at the time his knee touched the ground. There did not appear to be anything that could overturn the call. This resulted in an OU field goal a few plays later.

Blatant offensive holding by the OU line that was not called on at least 7 occasions, many of which converted 3rd and long situations and at least one touchdown.

I know this is an over used statement, but it was the worst officiating I've ever seen. I must have had a bad angle or something.:confused2:

- Mike
Only thing that I disagree with was the fumble that was overturned and went back to OU. That was the correct call. Everything else is accurate.
 
Uh, yeah....sure...okay.
It's so refreshing that we can work out differences without any name calling etc. You are so correct that it's aggie like behavior to ridicule any of the big 12 officiating. You are also correct that they do call holding on OU. Thanks for correcting me. Saturday's failure was all on Texas, it was nothing to do with any egregious officiating. :whiteflag:
 
It's so refreshing that we can work out differences without any name calling etc. You are so correct that it's aggie like behavior to ridicule any of the big 12 officiating. You are also correct that they do call holding on OU. Thanks for correcting me. Saturday's failure was all on Texas, it was nothing to do with any egregious officiating. :whiteflag:
It may have contributed. That's not what I'm saying. I just don't think there is an active campaign amongst them to get one team to the CFP vs another.
 
Officiating effects on a school is suppose
To even out over a season. I do not know if that is true or not.

However, it would take a decade of Texas getting favorable calls to even out what I saw in the OSU game in, i believe, 2015.

The refs literally awarded the game to OSU. I have never seen such one sided officiating in 60 years of watching football.
The referees penalized Texas to give OSU
A game winning FG. P. Ford was called for defensive holding while he was being double teamed 5 yards into the Texas backfield.
That game should forever have an asterisk
In the record book.
 
65,

The bias of certain officials against a particular school is why the SWC instituted the three black ball rule. Each coach could black ball three officials and they were not permitted to officiate any game involving that school.

Marvin Durenberger (sp) was #1 on both DKR and Fred's lists. An old Aggie with a grudge and would ALWAYS call holding on Texas at a most inopportune time. The one exception was a certain back judge from Waco, who was black balled by 8 of 9 coaches, but he was a "favor" to Abner McCall.

Three was not enough.
 
Great points HCH. Very well thought out responses. Discussing this topic with you brings to mind a quote from Mark Twain who said, "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
 
Guys with all my multi media post- I felt they were missed. I did not then, nor do I feel now there was impropriety going on.
The only two games that I’ll Aggie on you was Grant Tafts last game against TX. There is no doubt the refs leaned toward ensuring Taft got a W as the game was meaningless conference standing wise.
And the Aggie game following the bonfire tragedy. The late hit flag that was picked up on Simms was one of the worst calls I’ve seen. They waved it off…. 3 full steps out of bounds and got blasted- flag thrown immediately—— refs huddled and it was waved off.
But one of the other single worst calls was in UTs favor against OU, when OU clearly intercepted a ball in the end zone back in the Switzer days.
 

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