As of right now, who are you voting for?

Shiner, I don't even think Rubio lied. I know lots of Cubans who left around the same time because of the crisis in Cuba. Some of my relatives did the same thing immigrating from [Russia and Western Europe before the start of WWII. I would say that my grandparents immigrated because of WWII and it wouldn't surprise me if my Cuban friends and Rubio would say that they left Cuba because of the revolution. I think the controversy is contrived.

So you're essentially saying that the history books have the dates all wrong when it comes to when Castro took power?
 
No, that is not what I am saying. Perhaps if we were looking at specific quotes, I could say that he lied. Otherwise, what I am saying is that it is the simpler answer. Would you say that I lied when I told people that some of my grandparents left Europe because of WWII? I say it because it is easier than a long explanation of pograms and persecution in Russia and prejudice and persecution in Europe leading up to WWII caused them to leave. Oh and 1 of the grandparents was 7 when he left so I guess I would still be considered a liar even though he snuck out with his sisters with the help of their parents while their parents stayed behind. Or perhaps you would enjoy another lie by me. I say that I went to Yugoslavia during the beginning of the war. Well further research would show that the war started 1.5 years later. But what about the facts that there were sniper attacks in a town that I visited while I was there. Well just because the war had not officially started, there was a lot of stuff happening that made it extremely dangerous to be there.
 
No, that is not what I am saying.

Actually, that's exactly what you're saying.

Let's connect the dots:

1. From you: Shiner, I don't even think Rubio lied.

2. From Rubio: He was the “son of exiles,” he told audiences, Cuban Americans forced off their beloved island after “a thug,” Fidel Castro, took power. Note that Rubio claims his family left Cuba AFTER Castro took power.

3. Fact: Castro took power New Year's Day 1959.

4. Fact: Rubio's parents came to the US 2.5 years before Castro took power.

You are (intentionally?) confusing the issue by ignoring the specifics of what Rubio said and the dates involved, and now using generic words like "left Cuba because of Fidel". Did the Rubio's leave b/c of Fidel? Probably. No shame there.

Your convoluted WWII example really does no service here. Rubio was wrong with his facts. Your only argument of Rubio not lying would be based on Rubio himself not being aware of the specific dates, therefore he had not intent to deceive. But Rubio should have known, so at least he was "constructively" lying.

This isn't that difficult. Rubio was fluffing up his story to make it seem like his family's exit was based on a purer motive than economic and he did so for political reasons. Is it bad that he did that? I don't think so. But it's still a lie. At least be honest with yourself and call a spade a spade. It doesn't mean Rubio is a bad guy, or a bad politician, but you don't have to go around making up excuses for him.
 
Geez. How do you feel about Obama saying his parents met at the march to Selma?

Here's the deal. They're all politicians.

Man, Liberals really get worked up when someone other than a white man expresses conservative viewpoints. Such a threat, I suppose.
 
How do you feel about Obama saying his parents met at the march to Selma?

If he said it, if it's not true, and if the O-Man knew it was not true, then it's a lie.

Don't make excuses for him.
 
Amazing that people can pretend to NOT know BO LIED about how his parents were able to get together because of the March in Selma. LIE
OR that his marxist father was brought here by the Kennedy airlift. LOL LIE
I guess they weren't paying attention to BO during his campaign in 08
Maybe they also didn't know BO claimed his uncle was part of the liberation Of Auschwitz.LIE

Straight Up lies
.
 
Michtex gets the Tard of the Week award for not being intelligent enough to follow simple requests. Was it really too hard, tard?
 
Anybody but Obama. and I do mean literally I would vote for any candidate over him. I don't like Romney or Perry or Bachmann, but I will take any of them over the current fvckstick.
 
1) Cain
2) Newt
3) Romney
4) Perry



















5) The rest of the GOP candidates but Ron Paul.










6) Ron Paul






NEVER OBAMA. He's done way too much damage already to the US.
 
Classic. Guy asks for simple answers and makes a point to ask people to not **** on the thread. Mcbrett, Perham and Mich **** right on it on cue.

last Obama
next Romney
 
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Are you actually pretending you don't know what obama said in his gosh golly change the world Selma speech?
BO managed 2 lies in same speech.

if you really want to keep pretending you don't know I bet you can, Now how did JohhnyM put it? Oh yea " google it, it was in the news"
and read his speech. I bet you can pick the lies out right away
 
Sometimes y’all have to get away from the gravitational pull of Obama-hate, turn off Fox and actually read and listen to what is happening in the real world.Here is part of the text from Obama’s speech that he gave in Selma. He was talking about how events leading upto Selma and then later on changed the course of the history of America. He talked about the “Joshua” generation. About a country discovering the goodness that would make it the greatest nation for equality.

In reply to:
 
35 35
So? You do know how to google and you did put the link with the entire speech
but You forgot to mentione the lies
here they are
from speech
".” So the Kennedy’s decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country"

Uh NO BO Sr did not get one of Bobby kennedy's tix. BO SR came over in Sept 1959.
Roger35 Care to guess who was POTUS in 59? That would be a Republican IKE/ none of the kennedys has anything to do with Bo sr getting to USA

Lie #2
from your link
"There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. "

Uh Bo jr was 4 YEARS old when the march in Selma happened


Those aren't even very good lies.
 
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Ron Paul is the only candidate from either major party that I'd feel good about voting for.

Otherwise, I'll go third party.
 
Thanks to all capable of playing along and giving simple answers to the questions. To the rest, I wish you squishy poo in your bed.
 
I just registered with ACORN and they said I could vote as many times as I wanted!!!!!! I was down near OWS-Dallas and that is what they told me, so here I go.....

ABOB!!!!!!!

I would really like to hear Roger's reply to the above, that was so cute the Selma speech!!!!
 
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