Another Trans school shooter (arrested)

Good point mc
Do the parents have any responsibility to make sure their emotionally disturbed 26 yo son does not buy a gun?
 
Except you know your son has mental issues. Hard to think they would just ignore
Perhaps all the concussions had an effect.
I did think the parents saying he like so many had mental health issues was a way to deflect.
 
Horn6721 said:
Except you know your son has mental issues. Hard to think they would just ignore
Perhaps all the concussions had an effect.
I did think the parents saying he like so many had mental health issues was a way to deflect.
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The parents won't be held liable for the wrongful acts of their adult children without some kind of clear assistance. For example, if they bought him the gun or encouraged him to get the gun knowing he had mental health issues, then maybe. But that could justify liability whether he was their kid or not.
 
Horn6721 said:
Except you know your son has mental issues. Hard to think they would just ignore
Perhaps all the concussions had an effect.
I did think the parents saying he like so many had mental health issues was a way to deflect.
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The killer had mental health issues - not that he was totally dumb. He can buy the gun on his own, hide it, and answer 'no' to the question 'have you bought a gun?' Plus I'd be worried to ask if he had gotten a gun for fear that it might inspire him to do so.
 
guy
You are absolutely right. Currently people under Doc care for mental illnesses can legally buy a gun since there is no safeguard in background check to expose that fact.
In 2019 when that murderer who was also under medical care for mental illness legally bought a gun and murdered in Fla there was talk in Congress of strengthening regs to stop mentally ill people under a Doc's care from buying.
I thought it had changed. 4 years later it has not
 
Many times the issue with SSRIs is changing dosages or when the person quits taking them abruptly. Also, think about it, people with mental/emotional issues are more likely to take SSRIs already which is the same demographic that is more likely to want to do something insanely evil.
 
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To realize medical people would ignore their sacred oath seemingly to favor a current Woke agenda is horrific

Reading the clinic often ignored patients who changed their minds makes me sick
 
Horn6721 said:
To realize medical people would ignore their sacred oath seemingly to favor a current Woke agenda is horrific

Reading the clinic often ignored patients who changed their minds makes me sick
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Some of it is wokeness, and some docs are ridiculously ideological about. This military doctor is a crusader for it. I don't care if he's in the military. The dude is a friggin' crackpot, and I wouldn't let him anywhere near my kid.

But a lot of it is simple greed. With health insurance (and in some states, Medicaid) starting to cover it, there's plenty of money to be made both by doctors and probably even more by pharmaceutical companies.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Some of it is wokeness, and some docs are ridiculously ideological about. This military doctor is a crusader for it. I don't care if he's in the military. The dude is a friggin' crackpot, and I wouldn't let him anywhere near my kid.

But a lot of it is simple greed. With health insurance (and in some states, Medicaid) starting to cover it, there's plenty of money to be made both by doctors and probably even more by pharmaceutical companies.
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Why is the Pentagon even saying that? No one aged 7 is in the military unless the Pentagon now counts Call of Duty players.
 
guy4321 said:
Why is the Pentagon even saying that? No one aged 7 is in the military unless the Pentagon now counts Call of Duty players.
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No, but military members have children. Those children often attend US DoD schools and get medical treatment at military medical facilities. For example, there was a medical clinic at Lajes Field in the Azores when I lived there. This nut was in charge of that clinic at the time.
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
You lived in the Azores and left? What in tarnation?
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Mrs. Deez got promoted, which moved us to Germany, but we loved the Azores. The upside - it was the most beautiful place I've ever seen - by far. You had ocean and mountains, and everything was green beyond belief. The UK (which is pretty green) looks like South Texas compared to the Azores. This was the view from my back porch/balcony. The ocean was literally in my backyard. The seafood, dairy (cheese, butter, etc.), and beef were exceptional. In fact, the seafood was out of this world good. Fresh bread was everywhere. Beer was limited, but what was there was good. Wine was superb. There were tons of outdoor activities of all kinds. The Portuguese people were pretty poor but incredibly kind, honest, and decent - the best Europeans we've ever dealt with. The spring and summer weather were great. Very humid but low to mid 70s with a consistent ocean breeze. I've never been more comfortable outside in my life. Economically, it sometimes felt like living in the 1700s - lots of local craftsmen who advertised by word of mouth and sold products and services they provided out of their homes or shops in their yards. Most of them did superb work and were reasonably priced.

The downside - if local businesses didn't make what you wanted, shopping was difficult and at times very expensive. Getting off the island to go to mainland Europe or the US was very time consuming and expensive. There wasn't a lot of variety of food. For example - zero Mexican or Asian food of any kind. There was a little mediocre pizza, but beyond that, everything was Portuguese food. It's good food, but sometimes you want something else. I became a master at making fajitas, enchilladas, homemade salsa, tortillas, and tamales. Medical care was limited and very lackadaisical. For example, the wife once had a sinus infection and got the local pharmacy to give her antibiotics with a 4-year-old prescription from the United States. She just said, "this usually works for me," and he basically shrugged and said "ok." Think about the doctor from Idiocracy. That's basically what going to the doctor is like. The fall and winter weather were terrible - very rainy and 40 - 70 mph wind.

Would I one day move back? With that view, I could certainly be tempted.

Azores1.jpg
 
Mr. Deez said:
Mrs. Deez got promoted, which moved us to Germany, but we loved the Azores. The upside - it was the most beautiful place I've ever seen - by far. You had ocean and mountains, and everything was green beyond belief. The UK (which is pretty green) looks like South Texas compared to the Azores. This was the view from my back porch/balcony. The ocean was literally in my backyard. The seafood, dairy (cheese, butter, etc.), and beef were exceptional. In fact, the seafood was out of this world good. Fresh bread was everywhere. Beer was limited, but what was there was good. Wine was superb. There were tons of outdoor activities of all kinds. The Portuguese people were pretty poor but incredibly kind, honest, and decent - the best Europeans we've ever dealt with. The spring and summer weather were great. Very humid but low to mid 70s with a consistent ocean breeze. I've never been more comfortable outside in my life. Economically, it sometimes felt like living in the 1700s - lots of local craftsmen who advertised by word of mouth and sold products and services they provided out of their homes or shops in their yards. Most of them did superb work and were reasonably priced.

The downside - if local businesses didn't make what you wanted, shopping was difficult and at times very expensive. Getting off the island to go to mainland Europe or the US was very time consuming and expensive. There wasn't a lot of variety of food. For example - zero Mexican or Asian food of any kind. There was a little mediocre pizza, but beyond that, everything was Portuguese food. It's good food, but sometimes you want something else. I became a master at making fajitas, enchilladas, homemade salsa, tortillas, and tamales. Medical care was limited and very lackadaisical. For example, the wife once had a sinus infection and got the local pharmacy to give her antibiotics with a 4-year-old prescription from the United States. She just said, "this usually works for me," and he basically shrugged and said "ok." Think about the doctor from Idiocracy. That's basically what going to the doctor is like. The fall and winter weather were terrible - very rainy and 40 - 70 mph wind.

Would I one day move back? With that view, I could certainly be tempted.

Azores1.jpg
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What you described is almost exactly how I envision living there. I've actually done some research recently on cost of living in Portugal and ended up looking at the Azores and Madiera as well. I keep thinking I would love to retire to a low stress low cost place like Portugal or one of their island chains. I hear you can get the most amazing seafood dishes for less than $10 USD which would be something here you would pay $25. You are right, the medical care when you need it the most is the problem with retiring to a place like that.

Anyway, thanks so much for the detail and pic!!
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
What you described is almost exactly how I envision living there. I've actually done some research recently on cost of living in Portugal and ended up looking at the Azores and Madiera as well. I keep thinking I would love to retire to a low stress low cost place like Portugal or one of their island chains. I hear you can get the most amazing seafood dishes for less than $10 USD which would be something here you would pay $25. You are right, the medical care when you need it the most is the problem with retiring to a place like that.

Anyway, thanks so much for the detail and pic!!
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A few things. First, I lived on Terceira Island. You could live on São Miguel Island, which is more heavily populated and would likely have everything you'd get on Terceira plus more modern and advanced infrastructure and medicine. (Having said that, Terceira built a brand new hospital a few years ago in Angra do Heroismo, and it doesn't look bad.)

Second, I know little about Madeira, but I do know that it's bigger, less remote, warmer, and more touristy. That can be good or bad. Third, I'd look very closely at mainland Portugal. It's a beautiful place, especially Lisbon. That's the most expensive area, but all of it is very affordable by US standards.

Finally, before considering a move, look carefully at the medical situation. Medicare generally doesn't cover overseas care, which is insane. They could fly Medicare patients to Europe on first class tickets for surgeries, and they'd save a fortune. But for whatever reason, they don't. Accordingly, you'll have to either be part of the national healthcare system (if you're eligible) or have some kind of private insurance that covers care outside the US. Even if you are eligible, you have to carefully consider the ups and downs of that. Personally, I'm eligible for the NHS in the UK. I use it for routine stuff like prescriptions and GP care, but if I had a condition that I was really concerned about, would I rely on their system? ****, no. I'd find private specialists like my wife did for her endometriosis.
 
My takeaway is own a second home in the Azores for the spring and summer months then live in your Texas home for the fall and winter months and only get sick during that half of the year.
 
guy4321 said:
My takeaway is own a second home in the Azores for the spring and summer months then live in your Texas home for the fall and winter months and only get sick during that half of the year.
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The wife and I have talked about this. We'd like to retire in Lisbon and have a second small (like 2 bedroom, 2 bath) place in or near Salzburg, Austria.
 
Mr. Deez said:
The wife and I have talked about this. We'd like to retire in Lisbon and have a second small (like 2 bedroom, 2 bath) place in or near Salzburg, Austria.
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Rent in Salzburg. You don’t want the headache.
 
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